Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114390 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59411 invoked from network); 11 May 2021 14:36:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 May 2021 14:36:47 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0190A1804B1 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 07:44:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vk1-f169.google.com (mail-vk1-f169.google.com [209.85.221.169]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-f169.google.com with SMTP id q135so4098406vke.1 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rs7xndUu6uI6S7PRgXUXO1kAp5oTc8dtK5PNJRG+gpk=; b=R5AiqwTsia1B4F9vVNK6rDxnE2h5eQ9xeiXTr7jul73Zdgofhied21YK4OCadzH0y/ JKp+NHd5LjgjFh1sFDIaqjBZqFeOOgqemVeQMjtlPkNGmJrJJafXPVyCwsq4tj73v74I iqtNZCMlqW/B9UsSr0n8qE5ra3MUiyx7mCthon1KNn8HrOpu9n8LCtZO7pDqq2wE3Wj9 +HQCXfprpJYYZ2cgYAHt57FKf+qZLmDqYYC6ncKy9sPn8UJjuXq5a7JWhApt3czqcjwq oD1RDTlzmgdhTbNDUd3NL3lzrxdzgNyTXIkA5a//Q3h2MAdlJfTHZopGSajItJ7OQ3aK qzrA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rs7xndUu6uI6S7PRgXUXO1kAp5oTc8dtK5PNJRG+gpk=; b=l3YblHQ37dDKDzt/hW/1oUcLzq6kQ+twrUUW5GlhinyQW30PvI6mHsEtRAxjFAdKfv ttdRbtk8uSlZyd3swJO/lgrU++GqRx0xl7/Assc/I5RSc+78gvlBuhKor4Abq7onKhXF 4RJNXljUNR1vXRfA44yAeQqM9ZhL+QWEvzLMKioN2ATvwEDsbzlZ0EZOd4Dp/h4JM9YK xX8VdO+Ov0c7HLsE4McfxTcrIxSeBkp3exI2dLrhdzJSrtmpG5Ze7w9tyUcsL0EhUARF Z3gc3uYb4Ew8s4y414YtttaKyY9+VSoy952WjYTufkyHDyvSlwkdYlPy5tcVJ2q9xObJ Pgfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530e975PacFkyrqAHHomsizpNRB2E+s7N5AmxJOwumeU3zaxLxtI YB9+ZuwkMYlBdjoexyhQ28CGkJIc1dPehKR7ktQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzZBnhXCvJZCafaRbZp5+U6jBxKej09KSr1iHCLQnsEpDIQ6nXAynzfzQ1G0dKZ0vV09HuSteqWTJ9GI1qut6s= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:a24c:: with SMTP id l73mr23619721vke.0.1620744273887; Tue, 11 May 2021 07:44:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 10:44:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: Sara Golemon Cc: Mel Dafert , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b785d705c20eee80" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule? From: chasepeeler@gmail.com (Chase Peeler) --000000000000b785d705c20eee80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:36 AM Sara Golemon wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 9:21 AM Chase Peeler > wrote: > > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:34 AM Mel Dafert wrote: > > > (Gmail certainly can't, it can't even send non-HTML mails, and even > with > > > K-9 I have to remember doing it.) > > > > > I=E2=80=99m sending this from gmail on my phone, so not sure what you a= re talking > > about. > > > > This plaintext reply sent via Gmail web client. I don't know what Mel is > talking about either. > > Gmail's web client is what I normally use, and have never had an issue with it. For work I use outlook and I often do in-line replies as well. That's usually combined with a top post reply saying "see inline" since top posting is the convention everyone uses at work. I can also tell you it's much more difficult to go back through a long thread of emails when you have to read everything from the bottom up. I also wanted to address a few comments people have made around being told to top post. I've seen my fair share of snark on this board. Not once have I ever seen anyone make a big deal out of someone top posting. I don't even recall a time when someone replied JUST to tell them not to top post. I've only seen it presented as a gentle reminder as part of a reply on the actual topic. > -Sara > --=20 Chase Peeler chasepeeler@gmail.com --000000000000b785d705c20eee80--