Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114366 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95810 invoked from network); 11 May 2021 07:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 May 2021 07:15:37 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A071804CC for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 00:23:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from processus.org (ns366368.ip-94-23-14.eu [94.23.14.201]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 00:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from authenticated-user (PRIMARY_HOSTNAME [PUBLIC_IP]) by processus.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D9765101324 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 07:23:18 +0000 (UTC) To: PHP internals References: Message-ID: <0923caf3-12f0-f10b-8e9d-3e07ee267ebe@processus.org> Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 09:23:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Authentication-Results: processus.org; auth=pass smtp.auth=pierre-php@processus.org smtp.mailfrom=pierre-php@processus.org X-Spamd-Bar: / Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule? From: pierre-php@processus.org (Pierre) Le 10/05/2021 à 23:51, Kamil Tekiela a écrit : > Hi Internals, > > Could we drop the bottom-posting rule? I'm opposed to dropping the bottom-posting rule, for the simple reason that you naturally read from top to bottom, and most people don't bother reading again the whole thread when they read a single answer. > Mail clients don't make it easy for us; it's hidden by default. Thunderbird doesn't hide anything. > Bottom-posting makes reading the thread much more difficult too. The actual reply gets lost in between the > quoted content. It's in natural reading order, most people do post trimming as well, which mean that they remove useless text and keep only quotes they reply to, which makes it even more natural to read. > Many modern clients are designed to handle top-posting and don't > handle bottom-posting well. Not all mail clients, personally Thunderbird is a modern client, at least as modern as are the others, and mine does bottom-post per default. > If you want to quote someone then it makes sense to copy a part of the > message and then add a reply below Yes, that's the way ! > forcing people to remove the default reply from the mail client and then add the whole previous message > on top of your own reply isn't very productive. It wastes time and screen space. Then you mail client is evil and fights against you if it forces you to copy paste and rearrange. > Regards, > Kamil Regards, Pierre