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[24.98.254.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l16sm10484944qkg.91.2021.05.09.18.37.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 09 May 2021 18:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2469E003-4E22-4F82-91ED-F3B584D15E20" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.6\)) Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 21:37:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: internals@lists.php.net To: Rowan Tommins References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) --Apple-Mail=_2469E003-4E22-4F82-91ED-F3B584D15E20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On May 9, 2021, at 4:58 AM, Rowan Tommins = wrote: >=20 > On 9 May 2021 08:33:08 BST, Stanislav Malyshev = wrote: >> It is not good that our infrastructure is "hidden away in a dark=20 >> corner", and it is true that bugs needs some TLC for a while. But >> Github=20 >> Issues frankly sucks big time as a bug management system. It's hard = to=20 >> fault them as it's not their core business - but while it may be=20 >> adequate for a small project, I don't see how Github system could be=20= >> manageable with any serious volume.=20 >=20 >=20 > This is my instinct as well - Github Issues seems to be adequate as a = lightweight bug tracker, but how well will it scale, and how much will = we miss "advanced" features like separately searchable and reportable = fields and statuses? Are we better off looking for a SaaS that can = provide something more full-featured - Mantis, Phabricator, Trac, = Bugzilla, YouTrack, etc? Possibly the best of both worlds: https://github.com/marketplace/zube = https://github.com/marketplace/skope-github-issue-tracker = https://github.com/marketplace/orwell-app = https://github.com/marketplace/codetree = Plus another 545 PM-related apps and actions to fill in those "advanced" = features that are missing from the Github tracker: https://github.com/marketplace/category/project-management = And this list should only get better over time. =20 And for any functionality missing, there are always these: https://github.com/KnpLabs/php-github-api = https://github.com/googleapis/google-api-php-client = https://github.com/mpscholten/github-api = https://github.com/googleapis/google-api-php-client-services = Rhetorical question: What developer today does not have experience with = Github issues? Not so for many (any?) others. Github issues FTW! IMO, anyway. :-) -Mike=20 --Apple-Mail=_2469E003-4E22-4F82-91ED-F3B584D15E20--