Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114302 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20078 invoked from network); 9 May 2021 07:10:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 9 May 2021 07:10:54 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CECF1804C8 for ; Sun, 9 May 2021 00:18:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pf1-f175.google.com (mail-pf1-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 9 May 2021 00:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf1-f175.google.com with SMTP id k19so11492447pfu.5 for ; Sun, 09 May 2021 00:18:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kzcoT4iNuqRNAWNZ5TVBTWgQARXvEMzICqLVE2M4hLg=; b=NqoksDwoG4lKDVQ/jfwR/926M3x7i3Q56xu5VhKQrbyC6fRKfZmxXw6DhlyEBr/ZRf uxVVqbLG8LFzujqt4PiNqjYtdVTBNKJlYxDd+X2cFJPa+MXXZdHtTT47ohGbgRnded9s 0jsml9ocEO5K2GhFitEb0oi+YqpGmcgnQlUBNThz32qASecclO2ebWZisHnrHYkDiCWJ 5Kj5ObY4O9KV//BYfa2sUC2OsVrjLaMb1Ur97D98ZV4ATO02zAL8cPZ8GC5YTwaZDRQU Jz1Pc/6r5/CIC8Pr4+ruZOoBmWhVEcrgH9VRoXoiSdGhZq2IljT4n/xU150EDc0DIp3P 3B0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Hmn2k7uZC15Y2xXQFWZ4ShYKWxPAf+UshvaKamM1k8/tJ6+EA JlsJK3cOUGAQLnH14OmfmWz+C49W+MS5xTRVeGc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx2rbxhyEwbe9UYf8f1kJPPM4uMJ+Nm1nB89FMftvW1HjurXIYa/R7LreGOQ9ycCohHhK6LcjtTYsd1Q3WqgWs= X-Received: by 2002:a62:18d7:0:b029:28c:fdfa:f95b with SMTP id 206-20020a6218d70000b029028cfdfaf95bmr19259533pfy.57.1620544684842; Sun, 09 May 2021 00:18:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 10:17:55 +0300 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals , PHP Release Managers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugsnet From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Den s=C3=B8n. 9. maj 2021 kl. 09.49 skrev Joe Watkins : > > Morning internals, > > We have a spam problem on bugsnet, it's not a new problem. Nikita had to > waste time deleting 20 odd messages from bugsnet yesterday and this is a > common, daily occurrence. We clearly don't have time for this. Big +1 from my side. Much like Joe, I have tried a couple of times over the years to keep the old bugsnet up to date, but it is simply not possible to do in its current state -- for example, there is still open feature requests from 2001 there. One can also open that it can keep other spammers and abusers away from the platform such as the ever so recurring abuse of Reindl Harald. I only think the transition period will be difficult, but it should iron itself out after a year or so (hopefully) and I assume that by then, we could perhaps have a better medium or idea of how to deal with security bugs based on the tools available to us after some time of using Github on a project of the scale of PHP. I also fully agree that it is not something we should vote on, it is one of those things that those who actively work on PHP should decide (to semi quote Rasmus) -- Let's make it happen. --=20 regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net