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[96.61.105.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v7sm2123444ilo.25.2021.04.27.18.58.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E5216147-6323-4AA6-818C-0FF42BFFE9EF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.80.0.2.43\)) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 20:58:03 -0500 References: <5b9f1500-615a-48f1-815f-1d48b327ef90@processus.org> <179049b1475.11134368b213512.254739612773841999@void.tn> <722ed544-69e3-3be4-f828-185914617228@processus.org> <51fffd88-03c7-463d-a6d7-94c086cb5893@www.fastmail.com> To: php internals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.80.0.2.43) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Draft] Sealed Classes From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey) --Apple-Mail=_E5216147-6323-4AA6-818C-0FF42BFFE9EF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Apr 27, 2021, at 18:58, David Gebler wrote: >=20 > Anyway, yeah - I've said my piece(s) and I'm not a voting member so = what I > think doesn't matter to that end. I hope my input on internals = discussions > is not entirely moot, though; just like everyone else I take part = because > I'm very fond of PHP and have an interest in its future. Appreciate = those > who are willing to hear me out. I wanted to take a moment to say that your voice is important, even if you=E2=80=99re not a voting member. You=E2=80=99re a user of the = language, and that matters to those who vote. There may be fundamental disagreements here on the list about the direction of the language, but taking the time to weigh-in improves these RFCs for the better. As with many things in life, we have to make compromises to work together, but please don=E2=80=99t let that discourage you (or anyone = else, for that matter) from voicing concerns over how a proposed feature might change the way you use the language. Someone else might not have considered your perspective, and it might bring changes to the RFC or change someone=E2=80=99s mind about how they=E2=80=99ll vote. So, keep it up! Cheers, Ben --Apple-Mail=_E5216147-6323-4AA6-818C-0FF42BFFE9EF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEAREIAB0WIQToXQMR3fpbrPOmEOewLZeYnIwHGwUCYIjBKwAKCRCwLZeYnIwH G7bPAP46138oiIgPrRU2/QtYiAbfg+DrS1B/0Nr//0NQbiLuMAD/RAaKit1RjyYU ISFop08ATlccgYfgpskShRVQ6y0u3ZE= =3JDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E5216147-6323-4AA6-818C-0FF42BFFE9EF--