Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114086 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60448 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2021 12:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2021 12:22:44 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEBF1804BD for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pg1-f179.google.com (mail-pg1-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-f179.google.com with SMTP id j7so20220609pgi.3 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=a2dsb+mMMOQIA3e9VRs2Juw+WhlzPX/jpxL9TjQse7I=; b=JDrjNXeX8VetCEkwq190xACqtSqsVbh2KHO2hSlvBZ4bOyVLZwsf+FG/t/oEBezZCe HJw/DWEuwMr5PCAbK9dERBLQU8FLlWxFtjIruaHOhhnepr7oRejp7yET7aCqLFFo3KId dVx37bS6a9GbNxc+SI+Ekt4mFaC4qKRGM1KE5vMAs+BDSx5pXUf96SfYC6h2LEXt1Eb/ vJbUojlkqgV+IVg3VQJtGfXQTbUx7DoBZ6B9O7scBkwQMjRpfMFhG55JJWnHMZ3oAW5K zT+kULLW0YEqpiKgegT7BXTQ2iizlPgxo4HZd5ZhE8Z5w3biRfXBzCAL12zhbmGMBzbJ SL3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=a2dsb+mMMOQIA3e9VRs2Juw+WhlzPX/jpxL9TjQse7I=; b=sc1lXS6xYKaVkpMXCj8/ZRvkzwEgus9om/VZbap3njFHmmCKx7neo8DO+w3SvXVcs7 tJkj6v6R2iA41wMqi82c4nrBocCyze2UinGba04QVTLTIPmr99oQXyDyUlzJ4YVbtSbh Rq5NYfraXKRso/a9QDLJa85xulqJDJmtHt2rEHKMvoGSNwIfIVcVKyNhJbVQzNqVnRN6 eW2AyudvlldZ8rUzt9OQzRO7UWUqNnyGsTeINIjNNmM6xC2Uke5rK13Y1ey6y/CM6K5R cvi2S+SNOiY089gjP2a1wP2zh7JDqGewAyq7oBurCd7jF2rKFiSIgjjaMPJwoVsUyfmv DhUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532iTpOvtaA61c/MzJ3v9nIZsoHw7lKRTB3FRV9YT80QxoYa3TQv NVA6X13t6TyR2sBwuByeWvgpA/qvGkFyd6uNL6+xUpqd0yzt5A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwuUSMyMoc/XMpOmLbS54cVJHXb5Rb6mmpkU+hwXyzUtvvaMib468rLHbhbcfHDpFY9pjALJFU2nOAPT7xa2q8= X-Received: by 2002:a63:1b10:: with SMTP id b16mr21377390pgb.308.1619007928628; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:25:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <004701d73549$6dbc9840$4935c8c0$@jhdxr.com> <00c501d7368e$922938f0$b67baad0$@jhdxr.com> In-Reply-To: <00c501d7368e$922938f0$b67baad0$@jhdxr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:25:17 +0200 Message-ID: To: CHU Zhaowei Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000797a6905c07aa898" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Final constants From: kocsismate90@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhdMOpIEtvY3Npcw==?=) --000000000000797a6905c07aa898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > My point is actually what=E2=80=99s your scenario for a final constant? I= f you > want to make sure the value you access are not changed by child class, > `self::` can serve the purpose already. If you want to make sure Yes, my intention is to actually make class constant overriding impossible when it is desired. You can't really achieve this with only using self::, since you can only control your own code. Yes, I know that child classes could still declare a new class constant to overcome this limitation, but at least there will be no doubt what they should expect if they try to override the constant value. Otherwise, they have to check whether the parent class uses self:: or static:: calls. I agree we should fix the weird behavior but that=E2=80=99s another topic. No, I believe it isn't. Currently, only interface constants are not (directly) overridable. If we simply made all class/interface constans overridable, then one could not retain the original behavior in case of interfaces. While the solution offered by my proposal wouldn't be compatible with older PHP versions, it's still better to offer the possibility than not doing anything. Regards: M=C3=A1t=C3=A9 --000000000000797a6905c07aa898--