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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] wiki.php.net upgrade
From: sergey@s-panteleev.ru (Sergey Panteleev)

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Hmm=85

> I've tried the same yesterday, but the auth plugin does no longer work fo=
r me. I get a 404 after trying to sign in.

Can you also check the .htaccess file?

IMO, it should fail on /start page without additional settings.

I deployed for the test here: https://wiki.s-panteleev.ru/

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wbr,
Sergey Panteleev


From: Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com>
Date: Thursday, 8 April 2021, 13:15
To: Sergey Panteleev <sergey@s-panteleev.ru>, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev=
@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] wiki.php.net upgrade
Hey Sergey,

I've tried the same yesterday, but the auth plugin does no longer work for =
me. I get a 404 after trying to sign in.

2692 files changed, 35365 insertions(+), 102210 deletions(-)

Dokuwiki changed a lot in the latest release, e.g. namespacing and refactor=
ing quite a bit. I'll need to have a look at the plugin.

@Stanislav Malyshev<mailto:smalyshev@gmail.com>: We're only one release beh=
ind, the other three yellow bars are about release candidates. However, Dok=
uwiki might not be PHP 8 compatible, yet, at least the latest release only =
says it fixes PHP 7.4 compatibility.

I'd be open to replace the wiki with a Git repository and markdown. I prepa=
red that a long time ago by writing a Dokuwiki -> Markdown converter.

The main challenges I see are:
 - Voting
 - Voting access for people without VCS account

Voting could probably be moved into main.php.net<http://main.php.net> (exce=
pt for people without a VCS account, but we could probably approve an accou=
nt there without any further access?)

Best,
Niklas

Am Do., 8. Apr. 2021 um 11:16 Uhr schrieb Sergey Panteleev <sergey@s-pantel=
eev.ru<mailto:sergey@s-panteleev.ru>>:
Hi there!

Oops .. for some reason an empty message came, try again =3D(

I prepared an upgrade to the last release [1].
I tested locally, it seems ok.

Can we test it in the production environment, but not yet release it?

[1] https://github.com/php/web-wiki/pull/15

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wbr,
Sergey Panteleev


From: Joe Watkins <krakjoe@gmail.com<mailto:krakjoe@gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, 8 April 2021, 11:23
To: Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com<mailto:smalyshev@gmail.com>>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net<mailto:internals@lists.php.net>>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] wiki.php.net<http://wiki.php.net> upgrade
Any use case we have for content or collaboration is best served by
whomever or whatever is going to secure that content or ability to
collaborate.

Nobody has updated the wiki in several years, despite warnings, and two
very public breaches of security that we know about.

We don't have the people to maintain our own infrastructure, let's stop
pretending we do.

Cheers
Joe

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 08:15, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com<mailto=
:smalyshev@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > If we want to keep using wiki.php.net<http://wiki.php.net> then, sure, =
we should update it.
> > We could also migrate the wiki to GitHub.
> >
> > We also already have https://github.com/php/php-rfcs which we could use
> > for RFCs instead of a wiki going forward.
>
> Wiki isn't used only for RFCs, there's more content there than that. I
> personally think wiki serves these use cases much better than Github woul=
d.
>
> --
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