Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:113793 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59884 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2021 17:59:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2021 17:59:03 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43341805AB for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f46.google.com (mail-ej1-f46.google.com [209.85.218.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f46.google.com with SMTP id e14so4331470ejz.11 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=F/AkvtsLzoVSmjmoFk+gVSOauDAMvPK1h2SnaQ8N80U=; b=czP2DpCED81TNKb3qm7vXeWKwXyH4go5nKiwgps7DcpARgZFEZCsjS0RhABprsnfGH B01n/aEVGF5NkNdwaBTGwz2fGF8H1CuEDerbzxP0VfEJLUnsffnI5hc37hcD1aiWDEdq bFIE2rTqbpFMy/saeN1Nrenj5XF7q1bwhPmcsrj53xgBBO8dUKU/cyPxPOn8T7AyJIzh oMdISvP8Wz0M7rhIVUF4lqBHH8EJd+2uBJLSBJcLTc9MlBvx+mVuNyHUh7SY1FwE3L7h b/mQEhR1NIJqVcpeEhQZkYFQUr5x++eh+fGy7oJxoqi5GLXPOmvpyGm4I++8zZ/A0sKD AIaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=F/AkvtsLzoVSmjmoFk+gVSOauDAMvPK1h2SnaQ8N80U=; b=IMz/9wGRodSXAZEsPc4cOnxqbCpoQOIpaLfMUl4K8uHOtHPctxHQ434tdOuhxP8w58 kGpZJ8mxpRdacS8mXfePEZ7G1YkeTHkG3Hm35JFhCZIq4rr/8whkTQaAaSQDKv2VSXYO OieXmsuFnxo+Heb62oxQ19qpb4jy2Ffn9n3GNVEPq03I39Nlr50iEkog1hi7jvUagQFU VHl0it7bVF55/jO8UnmmNogLakVzN+AYSgjbRdJAHdAeEFM+DL28hn8T9oebvGIQTJwf YswD+fNocI2+YhBGLB77xKViwdqETCQ55Phziwoo4MgghlD8fDGb2FYZACmYY0WcdqBn v77g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532FXE+w1o9da6ymHdp3/ZDTZS1c9gngnFvjIH+fW/qq8lZeLR0v ovbkBDb/d38YEVmNwB2VqPhGOC8xaAI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwc0oXL5T3XRxc2ShtXXbTesPtKaWSRJ8CfVz4BO4a/089m0cAQ4FpBPr6CR/hlD5lzWaJW9g== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1113:: with SMTP id h19mr10581194eja.478.1616694906385; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r17sm2956668edm.89.2021.03.25.10.55.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:55:05 -0700 (PDT) To: PHP internals References: <88c9eb5f-f80c-4869-b7f8-1b58b9e2eaa3@www.fastmail.com> <4DC3B66E-A91A-4AA9-8872-8EE9DE92C2D4@cschneid.com> <8c72c162-83c0-7c7f-2fa7-4fbe3fb30a4a@gmail.com> <605bae82.1c69fb81.f49f7.d11eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <919e30e7-3e5e-d955-7bb4-1e1b5825cdd1@gmail.com> <635DD146-FC6F-4991-8D2C-5A6B492722D5@newclarity.net> <734f12de-da98-6b76-c2fe-8682f4d177aa@gmail.com> Message-ID: <74fab256-19ad-eb5a-143c-51c42226173e@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:55:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Auto-capture multi-line closures and shortfunctions take 2 From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 25/03/2021 17:11, Chase Peeler wrote: > I don't think you should keep a function from developers because some > people might use it incorrectly. That is not what I said either. I said I am not a fan of the "fn" syntax, because I do not think auto-capture should be seen as the default. If consensus is that we need auto-capture in the language, I would prefer a syntax that clearly shows that you are opting into it. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]