Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:113768 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9422 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2021 13:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2021 13:58:06 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44046180504 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f181.google.com (mail-lj1-f181.google.com [209.85.208.181]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f181.google.com with SMTP id z8so3170936ljm.12 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=U0PrT8ey33ZVaRb54Sbyhbq+/kBMTeBxfBW8PJputAM=; b=RUgW1YbnHrvees9vMeuIDxp57mF4A7ckuwzEGiuG3SVjoEVcJaVm1BAyJCFiWPb3F5 nCeM4IV+s5PAtGihgrA9B8ny3SGcJsEI9f7WzB29eubeHagV4u9c164lCCwE7YwquIXk 92uVdQdMsYwbaWF/dJNxzkYCA4tTWnhG5mKf1kqXw6A3nAMVeRAjC9RSQzHt2anbrvZW DdlL3pTevC4YunTI/AZQ65lJQAonu5C6/QYZIkOzVK53CTlDnVKwoWotMSI39SjKGbox D/m92q0HCn5lplC/Mg2UojT29FFEP1Qk5lhI4PPYtEPICTMq1Fd00pcrP2TTiI0fKHY8 Fm0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=U0PrT8ey33ZVaRb54Sbyhbq+/kBMTeBxfBW8PJputAM=; b=Nc+BwEsMHgV9+OicjqmqBz/Tmdaa6mJOC31Jrvf678mZN6lvDrrqPxEDissfjZ7B6X QXpdA9ANgyjfUOxZ4C571KXvpTWXcjK64xaBhxT1W+FsXi90b/rzCtFbFKZeTfpK3PvZ QLGOTDw1kNIrHLzrd0gKfT1qub4ra1802JR+Hc5ZUlxqIQULGIpVk5ltX9L83P7n4QBt iayrrg8M8KaQhssq4/kcmdTSg9cXCqFFRdPzwD6bzTMyAAcFgOfoR9+WTR624zLa+fgX +NWVYtGagaLwuRvgeTFQi8PjbTHv9Ll0E1xM76TyqBbbbOyBJLXlHfvESR3rp69RIXyg VGIg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532TpKrTivaZ0rjHk283pUICgStvf30emofTjY8OAmWca7RHMb4s yYuEEiwGNy1tMqTL6JLgf9N1I5oLnByu3IdAXdI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwdFlRZ/Xo+MrjY28W1+XdM/FsVEMr2kkEsUQPDSFvGWyxyVWr2mwLpGktQm92408FdXpBw0R2nn4OpxENqdcc= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9b90:: with SMTP id z16mr5644054lji.71.1616680445997; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab3:5f8f:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:54:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <605c9029.1c69fb81.c938.7861SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <88c9eb5f-f80c-4869-b7f8-1b58b9e2eaa3@www.fastmail.com> <4DC3B66E-A91A-4AA9-8872-8EE9DE92C2D4@cschneid.com> <8c72c162-83c0-7c7f-2fa7-4fbe3fb30a4a@gmail.com> <605bae82.1c69fb81.f49f7.d11eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <919e30e7-3e5e-d955-7bb4-1e1b5825cdd1@gmail.com> <635DD146-FC6F-4991-8D2C-5A6B492722D5@newclarity.net> <734f12de-da98-6b76-c2fe-8682f4d177aa@gmail.com> <605c9029.1c69fb81.c938.7861SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:54:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mark Randall Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Auto-capture multi-line closures andshortfunctions take 2 From: olleharstedt@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Olle_H=C3=A4rstedt?=) 2021-03-25 14:29 GMT+01:00, Mark Randall : > On 25/03/2021 09:28, Rowan Tommins wrote: >> That's not quite what I meant. I meant that you can't say "capture by >> default, but this variable is definitely local". > > I think if there's one argument against, this would be it, but IMHO it > is a weakness in PHP as a whole. > > The solution would be adding JS-like let / const statements. Which would > be a benefit to other things too. JS does not support "definitely local". No language does, AFAIK. Unless you count value types.