Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:113703 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22445 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2021 20:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2021 20:15:33 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D3C1804D8 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [81.169.146.161]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1616443850; cv=none; d=strato.com; s=strato-dkim-0002; b=gqsBgNUYkr1o70txSwXjfcGRa5b1vyIWzn6MwIUDIsQG2nKCJch95i9hbtU55R5uCk 3AzRGSqN0Z3PmM2azoQ3PkmQ/6N/j5XfL8MYH1v8YDNvJZLkjanH9pMws5PPWFgTl1Gf ATTdng029kIEiO8B52iU7uqqgDtFmAmAPaKBHuwsl87FOiARxJVhWt4uRIjacDLef7Bz Op2OqfObWELyW4XrzW8rqvqtzEve+xQjzaLWN4L6LkNPYwsCnLfRfvJ6nncMMFE1UXOH +w5/8/ltRS1raGyjOUzr8XTxaglZ8qUTdZl9ssfoeNVhuv2iH5rq4yxrZUhcVF1ya4ft w1WA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1616443850; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=strato.com; h=To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:Date:From: Subject:Sender; bh=U1Yf0VeQbnXEXTk6VKkc8Dw/681AWeugkD4/ENOLHT4=; b=aH61mdKHNp2P/0IfFULh2VeOPgf6xiCARiPXPf4DAaejurWlFchb2YU5Sukq8pa32Z JHJ+GAwDhxSg9ijLl+Ghe2R3RJdUo7ElBRREptFNNjvunoj1gdHxuiKS53R3bhHBnQ2g xdwoGdbhlx1muSmFzg2yjwZZIi+eXgJ719IhDG+7GkLD3KFGUfsBrJyFgltybQAodkPA AentgqdvWjb4bXjNKaCNO0TWIkBSs7SLJYGsIj/ZwboQiyRt51/Z+VT13BK1nqvjAqdG 8FZxMOmnv6kd+OhCyXshJnyJm10TgSRV+dC4CC9fpnABukmiBjOQFkuKMMtFxUYQXGVi at2g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; strato.com; dkim=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1616443850; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=kelunik.com; h=To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:Date:From: Subject:Sender; bh=U1Yf0VeQbnXEXTk6VKkc8Dw/681AWeugkD4/ENOLHT4=; b=iF4ov7Ec+hoW6lk5rhme/RU9cBXlFxMUeiuCNQ4iKnRx8v3e6IXV38pmf+kN05gpzg bntVhoWz+uRm60n8SNIkOqZHe4nKe9u21bfGUZLeuQIVakqM0iVQPIXw1oDhHlZCbrjU QhWeZiG8yLiVkjMcxxFvWbrB9QTYBL7G9AjU5v/LwZfYoiqk7BRMLfhvCue1dh6v6gWb bAmr/mgsRloPG+xzWbDNUNMf+GtZkbhqd7Icx7hxm/KxyCSz59a8G3uZzmWIAHx7YK8y D4y3F0sj1nLg5UxQil90On1xQKkinhDtKZkGQQGOcxD4ZagO6NLNgv69+Vgswco2rvCt iCUQ== Authentication-Results: strato.com; dkim=none X-RZG-AUTH: ":IWkkfkWkbvHsXQGmRYmUo9mlsGbEv0XHBzMIJSS+jKTzde5mDb8AaBAcYyRB" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from mail-pj1-f43.google.com by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 47.21.0 AUTH) with ESMTPSA id x06d76x2MKAoHCr (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-pj1-f43.google.com with SMTP id kk2-20020a17090b4a02b02900c777aa746fso9114213pjb.3 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:10:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532+23vaDZoE1/RycH45kdCFVgfyGv1nS/NI0Sj3vlhqjxkNqtXE xqyLW7xTuIN10LFU/2iSNXqkV2SOHm5Ib7A2KiQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxaPvrOyqNFP/EAD+2URnLSmhL6enKlTSdMNTAB9YoVHcPEThx2hQzWf9qPM8e0Gd6ubDcTxwao/VF1Yi3GsNo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:f010:: with SMTP id bt16mr792989pjb.116.1616443849654; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <96A0EE3F-A225-4ED9-9306-67F05B0C3CB4@benramsey.com> In-Reply-To: <96A0EE3F-A225-4ED9-9306-67F05B0C3CB4@benramsey.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:08:12 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Ben Ramsey , Aaron Piotrowski , php internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007545e905be25a9c2" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Fibers From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller) --0000000000007545e905be25a9c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > >> I hope others would > >> play with it more as well if we had more time. Any objections? > > > > Yes, I object. > > > > You've been around PHP internals long enough to see the drama has > > occurred on other RFCs where people have been > > cajoled/pressured/threatened to either suspend votes or withdraw RFCs. > > > > Although this RFC is reasonably free from drama, I think it was wrong > > for you to ask for an extension regardless of the current voting. Not > > only is it improper on its face, but it sets a bad precedent for more > > drama filled RFCs. > > > > cheers > > Dan > > Ack > > > > btw I would prefer that all RFC votes were longer (e.g. 4 weeks for > > all decisions that don't have an external time constraint), but > > changing the end time during the vote is bogus. > > I agree with Dan. Also, there was plenty of discussion time for this > RFC. It=E2=80=99s not like it was rushed. > Hey all, given the wording in the voting rules, the fact that the RFC hasn't been edited to include the new end date, and due to the objections, I think the best way forward is closing the voting on the RFC soon. Given no timezone is mentioned in the RFC, we can probably go with either UTC or UTC-12. We'll close the vote after UTC-12 passed. Please create a new thread for discussions about the voting rules in general that aren't specific for this RFC to keep this thread focused. Thanks, Niklas --0000000000007545e905be25a9c2--