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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:20:11 +0000
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To: Guilliam Xavier <guilliam.xavier@gmail.com>
Cc: Levi Morrison <levi.morrison@datadoghq.com>, Aaron Piotrowski <aaron@trowski.com>, 
	Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com>, php internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Fibers
From: george.banyard@gmail.com ("G. P. B.")

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 16:01, Guilliam Xavier <guilliam.xavier@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 4:38 PM Levi Morrison <levi.morrison@datadoghq.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 9:13 AM Guilliam Xavier
> > <guilliam.xavier@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 3:06 PM Aaron Piotrowski <aaron@trowski.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > On Mar 19, 2021, at 5:47 PM, Levi Morrison <
> > levi.morrison@datadoghq.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 3:54 PM Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com
> > <mailto:me@kelunik.com>> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hey Levi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:40 PM Aaron Piotrowski <
> aaron@trowski.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Greetings everyone!
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> The vote has started on the fiber RFC:
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/fibers <https://wiki.php.net/rfc/fibers>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Voting will run through March 22nd.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Cheers,
> > >> >>>> Aaron Piotrowski
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> This is selfish, but I would like to kindly request lengthening
> the
> > >> >>> voting window to allow me more time to play with it. I feel like I
> > >> >>> can't vote "yes" on something like this without more experience
> with
> > >> >>> it (which is why I currently have voted "no"). I hope others would
> > >> >>> play with it more as well if we had more time. Any objections?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> How much time do you think you need?
> > >> >
> > >> > Another week seems reasonable; enough time to evaluate it more
> > >> > thoroughly but not delay things seriously.
> > >>
> > >> This is fine with me. Let's extend voting for about another week,
> > ending on 3/28 at about 11 PM EDT.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm afraid you can't: from https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting#voting
> > >
> > > > A valid voting period must be declared when voting is started and
> must
> > not be changed during the vote.
> > >
> > > (Not that I care personally, but you would take the risk of the vote
> > being invalidated...)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Guilliam Xavier
> >
> > We should dig through the history, because the line before that is in
> > conflict:
> >
> > > Votes should be open for two weeks at minimum, at the authors
> discretion
> > this may be extended, for example during holiday periods.
> > > A valid voting period must be declared when voting is started and must
> > not be changed during the vote.
> >
>
> The history is <https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-short-votes>, but I don't
> think it conflicts: to my understanding, what "may be extended" is the
> chosen duration vs the minimum duration (e.g. the author can chose to open
> a vote for an "extended" 4-weeks period instead of 2-weeks), and that
> choice must be set before starting.
>
> Arguably the wording is maybe not the clearest, but there's also this from
> <
> https://externals.io/message/104860>:
>
> >> +1, but it should probably be possible to extend the voting period once
> started, but not shorten it. This allows for extension during holidays in
> case the author didn't think about that when starting the vote.
> >
> > Allowing the extension of voting leaves us open to someone extending the
> voting period simply because they don't feel like they have the result they
> wanted.
>
> Anyway I just wanted to warn (it would be a shame to see the vote result
> being debated after an extra week), but that may be OK to the "deciders".
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Guilliam Xavier
>

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