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I believe this addresses the primary concern with previous=0A= > proposals.=0A= =0A= Both of the namespacing RFCs have been announced for over 3 weeks and I don= 't think I've=0A= seen any new discussion since then.=0A= Are any updates planned? When will voting on the namespacing RFC(s) start?= =0A= (I had some stdlib RFCs/RFC ideas I was postponing since February to avoid = interfering with the namespacing discussion)=0A= =0A= Thanks,=0A= Tyson=