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Wouldn't it= =0A= > make sense to always require a string as an argument?=0A= > =0A= > Regards,=0A= > Kamil=0A= =0A= I initially considered making it required, but then I felt like there wasn'= t a compelling reason to force end users=0A= to write `println('')` instead of `println()` to print a single newline in = code surrounded by other println statements.=0A= Printing an empty blank line would be common enough in CLI output or plaint= ext HTTP responses for this proposal to make it easier to do.=0A= =0A= - This differs from echo/print/printf statements, where not including an ar= gument wouldn't make sense to support, because it would not output anything= =0A= - This proposed println behavior is similar to python, where `print()` with= no arguments would print a single newline=0A= =0A= https://wiki.php.net/rfc/println#proposal=0A= =0A= ```=0A= println("test");=0A= println(); // moderately useful to not switch to echo or pass the empty st= ring to print a blank line=0A= println("third line");=0A= /*=0A= Output:=0A= test=0A= =0A= third line=0A= */=0A= ```=0A= =0A= Thanks,=0A= - Tyson=