Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:113464 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56048 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2021 08:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2021 08:31:33 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935BD1804D3 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 00:23:57 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from srv015.mail.ichtushosting.com (srv015.mail.ichtushosting.com [159.69.182.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 00:23:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stitcher.io ; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7qXf6qcmOR0NTdRntwWDmBi39L5V9CwZEcmykWjTeuQ=; b=we4KrWMh8gYukSjwKaA3Gl6Ifw yUaggG6LjbBYl+g7FgM4AZLPV2Ed5Tci7jyQlXACpKnJ8TiaEIxdkQLugPE4UTpYlKL4ihirZmpKZ XDenNTVShHc2UirBhx6rTXtqTzrrHIppRLe9FU76W3fteODTiSXkjvBZX8MgJIFseyOkJqtHKxQJq i80cSdtZridevJOdSV8fE2u349aeBlQYnJ07/myAjGMEIe16B0+ObQeJ7DRrx+DODzJZHJNOSeXT3 VfK1kEUbdySIf+vCstJwwjFjLhaoP5UUzg7niQ+x8cdVf5uNZAg+M5qBL4KeoFiiRi3k23yZFJ7An v/6+Iudw==; Authentication-Results: srv015.mail.ichtushosting.com; iprev=pass (srv021.web.ichtushosting.com) smtp.remote-ip=78.47.76.72; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=stitcher.io; dmarc=pass header.from=stitcher.io Received: from srv021.web.ichtushosting.com ([78.47.76.72]) by srv015.mail.ichtushosting.com stage1 with esmtp (Exim MailCleaner) id 1lKGbp-00078s-Mr from ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:23:54 +0100 Received: from ptr-fq9l27vnrj5n4zo1wbw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be (ptr-fq9l27vnrj5n4zo1wbw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1812:c3b:6800:7897:682d:b2e1:ddec]) (Authenticated sender: brendt@stitcher.io) by srv021.web.ichtushosting.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C61F20F8E; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:23:52 +0100 (CET) X-MailCleaner-SPF: pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:23:51 +0100 Cc: PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <75a8a0ec-d988-7712-58b5-88c8061db605@gmail.com> To: Peter Stalman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-MailCleaner-TrustedIPs: Ok Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] noreturn type From: brendt@stitcher.io (Brent Roose) Hi Peter and internals > On 11 Mar 2021, at 07:51, Peter Stalman wrote: >=20 > On Wed., Mar. 10, 2021, 11:22 Matthew Brown, = > wrote: >=20 >> If a significant number agree I can add a secondary vote on noreturn = vs >> never, but never introduces more of a BC risk. >>=20 >=20 > Hi Matt, >=20 > I like this RFC, but I'd like to see the RFC cover if any other = languages > have a similar return type. What made it clear to me was this: returning nothing (void) isn't the same as not returning (noreturn, eg = throw or exit). Having read that somewhere on Twitter made it easier for me to reason = about. It's a useful feature in the static analysis world. >=20 > The definition of `void` is that it has no return value, so I too = agree > that the keyword `noreturn` is too close in meaning to `void`. >=20 > I'd also like to throw the word `deadend` or something similar into = the > ring, to make things a bit clearer. >=20 > Thanks, > Peter Kind regards Brent