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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] class_name:namespace
From: php@manuelcanga.dev (Manuel Canga)

 ---- En vie, 26 feb 2021 13:25:30 +0100 Micha=C5=82 Marcin Brzuchalski <mi=
chal.brzuchalski@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3 ----=20
 > Personally, none of the above examples is convincing bc I'd implement th=
em
 > using a fixed class names map to avoid loading untrusted classes.
 > Any kind of helper class is something I'd personally not use to avoid
 > static coupling of code and hacks while writing unit tests over
 > services that could be injected by IoC.
 > Full class names (whether they're aliased or used in use clause) have mo=
re
 > benefit over class name string operations as they're easy for any renami=
ng
 > which most of the IDE's these days can handle.
 > IMO introducing namespace magic constant has relatively narrow use and I=
'd
 > probably vote NO on this.
 >=20
 > Cheers,
 > Micha=C5=82 Marcin Brzuchalski
=20
I see...=20

I agree with you, however one thing is as we would like  PHP will be used a=
nd other is as it is used.

- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24798621/how-can-i-get-the-full-names=
pace-of-a-class-without-creating-an-instance-of-it
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13932289/get-php-class-namespace-dyna=
mically
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43630010/php-how-can-get-the-namespac=
e-of-class-method-parameter
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28182783/get-namespace-of-an-object-u=
sing-an-abstract-class-or-trait/28182941
- ...

It's like `eval`, it is dangerous, maybe it never should be used. However, =
sometimes is useful.=20

do we  avoid "dangerous" features ? or do we think people are professional(=
 I don't know if this is used in English equal Spanish ) and they know usin=
g it when is needed ?

I think that if something is common and normally useful, PHP should impleme=
nt that. For example,  `::namespace` or `get_namespace()`=20

Regards
--
Manuel Canga

Zend Certified PHP Engineer=20
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