Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:113187 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75621 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2021 22:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2021 22:57:02 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FE91804F2 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 14:43:37 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 14:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A97E5C0110 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap8 ([10.202.2.58]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:43:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=HD7kuS76rcdqiQVN2W22Sd1jgiElmWZ/TloGpZyvH Mc=; b=h9A+Ig+0NI5bpB6m3gECukUceLUr9ZVc5w7L4GE7d7zW7Q4BsJgx2L1F3 NUlqS90TL3cC92z1JIq7m4+EaH0pnIXyISPdb83fPq7JBVBu2POzE+1SjrM0AUgm mEWs3u0hLRR/wGzv28byCeB7n+7cNZFwrpxsrgHwLppW61j1DsYj2vsPmmmShW7n /Q/MM7lcnG8ESgrspKVyRxS9/Yow5pceRzk5k8dCG+UuGEZbQI1D4X6pg+JdVtxg J0Q7o/jBI+0ebLpkHoQ7ziq9DqJu+cnKim/TrFPPz0hESmZ75PBl21DAhADFil32 g8Ka07rUSQXpSDHsDtgGXfIl9iPyA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrieelgddtudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesthhqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdfnrghr rhihucfirghrfhhivghlugdfuceolhgrrhhrhiesghgrrhhfihgvlhguthgvtghhrdgtoh hmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeggeehgfetjeehgefggefhleeugefgtdejieevvdet hfevgeeuudefleehvdetieenucffohhmrghinhepphhhphdrnhgvthenucevlhhushhtvg hrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlrghrrhihsehgrghrfhhi vghlughtvggthhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 368C93A0074; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:43:36 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-141-gf094924a34-fm-20210210.001-gf094924a Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4972baf7-606d-4bff-bacd-223d816e0ec7@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:43:13 -0600 To: "php internals" Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Replies on lists.php.net From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Pierre wrote: > Le 15/02/2021 =C3=A0 13:32, Alexandru P=C4=83tr=C4=83nescu a =C3=A9cri= t=C2=A0: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:20 PM Pierre wr= ote: > > > > I'm interested in this topic as most email clients that I know don't= have > > such an option like "reply to list". > > > > Instructions here clearly mention that reply to all should be used: > > https://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php > > << Be sure to click Reply-All to reply to list. >> > > > > Maybe the email server or client that you use should be able to unde= rstand > > that the two email copies are the same email and show only once. > > > > Regards, > > Alex > > > If you're interested, I'm using Thunderbird, it had this option since=20= > the beginning of time. The hardest part is not forgetting it exists. I= n=20 > a lot of open source mail clients you may find this option in the drop= =20 > down menus when right-clicking on a mail from a list. Some are smarter= =20 > and will reply properly to the list transparently when you click "repl= y"=20 > (and not "reply to all"). >=20 > I do not use any CLI mail clients, such as mutt or others, so I will n= ot=20 > be of any help about those. This is a long standing fight. Who is in the wrong, mail clients that s= tupidly send double messages, or mail clients that stupidly can't detect= and omit double messages? Probably both, but the one that is really wr= ong is whatever someone else is using and you're not. Because humans. (Personally I'd blame the ones that lack reply-to-list, because that's t= he easier feature to include.) Could we at least update that page to say "use the reply-to-list feature= if available, or reply-all if not"? Or something like that? Because y= eah, I'm also really sick of getting 2 copies of every email sent to eve= ry thread I ever touch. :-) --Larry Garfield