Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112953 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77065 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2021 11:03:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2021 11:03:21 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217F21804DA for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 02:43:31 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com (mail-wr1-f50.google.com [209.85.221.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 02:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id a1so1231207wrq.6 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 02:43:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=uhRfyMYp2k18RcmsIgScWq4+stUCoRGKlqG/501AKiA=; b=izEJQf1t2g5jNbTEKL8JS4YQaPygKd8c+DalHbpPRDZYjgvhiFoZW4LBUL94eUelcQ xWTnupO7/z0zuMLcQuE7b8uQ2d9EhSJe0Xw0ot5jj85HhGbq3vjQporYxiqDvG9IpvmG 27nXPfvKiA5oC91IhJ/Zgy9jUu7IYu7TKr0OvvPwuU0qJYtJvvVBY9sJd036BSZpKP8T aoCBIglxNX9hkPqmpxQ1SBpnFvV1xxVneSckwYcA8eW8Y3F7SeV78wJb9UbDyJmm98RO +Yc8G/w8I+0KCQeRymFjB4A+cUTcnSDxTmTKp6HttIZBOHb4G7n8NYVJaz/5FCnm1oIK 7KJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=uhRfyMYp2k18RcmsIgScWq4+stUCoRGKlqG/501AKiA=; b=rt3RSFcQ6Mkn+hAXAOCrNieFwMFLqom6+8Iguaa+wfSOCUHjNHZ3YVzUHKz5+ra2SW P5s7G11bYchejjvN77z3LZC4IoS4KibSFqYQiPTDtXAR297niQImjey9noNTPiBgBsRh 4+OpNoMtUCSE5Ve4z/y4zJSnNsoFAHZQOxqMDK78r9SUAHiWZuCUxOSO78rmdTnJibaj cdXIDotemkAPUz8+AeZbu5wTOABiEbVSODfF3agPjI159ZlstqUwUEDHzgcdCP9CPb1P qKD84QzYc37oDV+I5yo2XCrGCFIVtcoLO+JsqIcx15JwA3SW/0GiPuzsIqp0ogoBGkDq 9a0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532QTmCZQ3juK/N9XdAhwnS/pgAQfirTks5PggU6prWYNXDJRNzo 3+hDOpWNSdB3mvMA3zNnzJo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwoUhNmtyMEoVHMl88I0JqVCMy5cRvbntFivdhmPVSI27eY7CtC4a0OoaeV7nR1sGPuW3/o6A== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:460e:: with SMTP id t14mr134422wrq.68.1611225808593; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 02:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from claude.fritz.box ([89.249.45.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p17sm7755358wmg.46.2021.01.21.02.43.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 02:43:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0FFB9827-3484-485B-94E4-66544D0246CC@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7B65C4C5-9AA1-440D-8A2D-296E2B7E050C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:43:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Rowan Tommins , PHP internals To: Sara Golemon References: <22e7ebcf-3f98-ff74-8d84-d2b50cda44b7@gmail.com> <1DF0F205-30A4-4FA3-8A58-703BAC6AD732@gmail.com> <18afe2ed-0802-8f76-b094-64d5ff8cf37f@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: short_var_export($value, bool $return=false, int $flags=0) From: claude.pache@gmail.com (Claude Pache) --Apple-Mail=_7B65C4C5-9AA1-440D-8A2D-296E2B7E050C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Le 21 janv. 2021 =C3=A0 00:19, Sara Golemon a =C3=A9cr= it : >=20 > IMO print_r/var_dump should be kept out of this discussion. Those are = human > readable outputs for human consumption. var_export() is about a = machine > readable output for recreating initial state within a runtime. The > requirements presented are wholly different. >=20 > -Sara If the goal of `var_export` is *only* to have some machine-readable = output, the following will do it: In reality, the output of `var_export()` is *both* machine-readable and = human-readable. =E2=80=94Claude --Apple-Mail=_7B65C4C5-9AA1-440D-8A2D-296E2B7E050C--