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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 10:30:50 -0600
In-Reply-To: <CADyq6sJDk8OnfdPWr2neGB5s_FduON3prb+QMJc2TDsckKqENg@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" <internals@lists.php.net>,
 Dik Takken <dik.takken@gmail.com>
To: Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com>
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 <CADyq6sJDk8OnfdPWr2neGB5s_FduON3prb+QMJc2TDsckKqENg@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] __repr() magic method (was Re: Proposal:
 short_var_export($value, bool $return=false, int $flags=0))
From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey)

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> On Jan 20, 2021, at 10:28, Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 5:27 PM Ben Ramsey <ben@benramsey.com> wrote:
>> Taking this to a new thread so I don=E2=80=99t derail the =
`short_var_export()` thread.
>>=20
>> Dik, I like this addition, but I think the name =E2=80=9Crepr=E2=80=9D =
might be confusing to PHP developers who aren=E2=80=99t familiar with =
Python idioms. PHP function names and coding standards within the =
community tend to lean more toward verbosity than terseness, when it =
comes to naming things.
>>=20
>> Perhaps we should follow the lead of `__toString()` and use =
`__toRepresentation()`? Maybe also introduce a `Representable` =
interface, like `Stringable`? https://wiki.php.net/rfc/stringable
>=20
> Ooof, can we just avoid more magic methods overall? :|


I think that ship has sailed, friend. ;-)

Cheers,
Ben


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