Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112937 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92650 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2021 16:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2021 16:03:49 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382EC1804F6 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:43:49 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f41.google.com (mail-ej1-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-f41.google.com with SMTP id by1so27746847ejc.0 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:43:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v3CeO/c91HU4VvkJTsQZidOSeu1Ksnh3jsA4Rvi2KZ0=; b=ibjeabmbmwHDMhZmvxXG+U+Okb2IWoD02sw+JzhT0JJ/l/THssgWq6xQstKBpPbL9X XmjjbvKKlShSSqjX9Kx4rJOGvwciGE+7IDHcI4b/T3qUvOCBaTqLUq4tamw/QHlD4kv9 AYl/BsghWVlX1HvqmM7LvUmIP+FXIcOumAeQG7w4bishzpEyPP9YDBmhq0Aaj9YCMyPM Tbclh4aPpQSa5B7Be+jGt+MPS/A32q1dmMbnpUKvSEecjY0QmL2WDF8p5510HesQwQlM VfT6rDkL7bo5FJUGQnuMrD4odGdHzQ4me5JctIjrvVytI57MTr2iUFv2WJEu6dh47wp6 /sDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=v3CeO/c91HU4VvkJTsQZidOSeu1Ksnh3jsA4Rvi2KZ0=; b=Ra2lFY+1i+ZjCKgfu8SkSXf+2HGeGjkwFgFybUGmEBXLTJQzpRPoNg1BrgocUvImez n+xGsHDuiKG1ZTESQfeptpaoCAf6qeai72sEQbQI2PYTQSdoT/csjgze0XqYgj0PAJ8v FQjBzSrl5k/sev5gmXNhK7XvQ9q28N1SEhRYhPo4xTD5inhqmIpf1mHzRJX+wjRBxWzF KrcYNL0YdQ4YQlS6u+MIPPpUZvOhrO2JmHDFP0Ygk8Raxyd0uPdTz2GaoBi/kRNHKds5 80F6q8vJO2ulDZsPuCPXWLUZhEw1BZmvnS1iuRvJbmoRLRWQJlDy83IrHdqI6HRDVYTn nZPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ZeCnn794sZTpSzD84ooAAtKFwM71P+9HOJyBQ6i4DtyUy0K4n llaKvNJjOs0mXgGKMcbPNVQGY0QAUTU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwagUV1jerqpgyRCjCfOUTX7+ORG2J/DXNhndDF2NwnWtJTvNBz7EybhkFZzv0YQWbFSvAxNg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:68c:: with SMTP id wn12mr6764420ejb.41.1611157426488; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:983:6fc5:1:55b1:83e7:3b38:26cb? ([2001:983:6fc5:1:55b1:83e7:3b38:26cb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q9sm1054334ejd.113.2021.01.20.07.43.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:43:45 -0800 (PST) To: tyson andre , Nikita Popov Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" References: Message-ID: <618b4a6e-0e12-0ac5-6cf9-facb16737632@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 16:43:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: short_var_export($value, bool $return=false, int $flags=0) From: dik.takken@gmail.com (Dik Takken) On 19-01-2021 16:12, tyson andre wrote: > It seems inconsistent and prone to bugs when refactoring (e.g. converting to string and not using the result) > to have two functions named var_export where one prints by default and the other doesn't, but otherwise . > Changing to a different name entirely would solve that, such as var_repr(), var_representation(), serialize_[value_]as_php_snippet(), etc. > I am considering to try and introduce a __repr() magic method that is similar to the __repr__() method from Python. Having a var_repr() method which does not use the __repr() method would be confusing. So I would like to suggest not to use that name. As the intent of the resulting string is to obtain PHP code that will construct the variable, another option might be: var_constructor(). Regards, Dik Takken