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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:44:48 -0500
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To: Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more
 secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?
From: chasepeeler@gmail.com (Chase Peeler)

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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:40 AM Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 4:29 AM, Kris Craig wrote:
> > >
> > > > and as explained in the past: if *you guy* ever again contact my
> > > > employer asking for the law department beause you think some
> bugreport
> > > > written late at night with a obfuscated email was from me i will
> *find
> > > > and fuck* you
> >
> >
> > Wait did somebody actually contact this troll's employer?!  Seems like an
> > unnecessary escalation to me.  I think this may be a perfect example of
> the
> > timeless wisdom of the phrase, "Do not feed the trolls."
> >
> > Might be better to just block all of his known emails from the list.  If
> he
> > gets around this by emailing people individually, I agree that publishing
> > it here with the email address included would be useful, as it would
> enable
> > everyone to individually block their emails then.
> >
> > --Kris
>
> Point of order.  "Don't feed the trolls" may be timeless, but there is
> absolutely nothing wise about that saying.  It's the "turn the other cheek
> when the bully punches you in the face" advice, and it backfires horribly.
>
> Telling people to individually block an abusive user with many email
> addresses is putting all the effort of dealing with an abuser on the
> victims.  That's the worst possible advice one could give.
>
> cf: https://peakd.com/community/@crell/why-you-can-t-just-ignore-them
>
> Please, for the love of all that is holy, expunge "don't feed the trolls"
> from your mind.  It's counter-productive and destructive advice.
>
>
I agree with this. I'd also add that in this case, we aren't even feeding
this troll. He lurks on the list and sends private replies to people.
Usually those replies nitpick on something that isn't even the main point
of the discussion. The only way to "not feed" this troll would be to not
participate at all.



> --Larry Garfield
>
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