Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112236 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36097 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2020 10:53:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2020 10:53:35 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F9B1804C3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 02:16:13 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f44.google.com (mail-wr1-f44.google.com [209.85.221.44]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 02:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-f44.google.com with SMTP id o15so5383465wru.6 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 02:16:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=XwHmaBgzYJLTiHx9Tydm3Pf8TG0RcYRK4K31bij+HpA=; b=BEGeQ+n4QkNn/xENDFD4L6f4fk0o16RK16m84hlMrSqjuA2Uv3VvycO68M2wNNY82P t9oFTkuhxpP0HejSGyhTqq6V98Phnz4574X3g3bptT0xq888UKLMViqPjQPmq6aScRk0 ZOvX1R7wj9LEk04vfuzIDRskOlFaf88RBkGDiY4jQvXjEz4yKursJ1WmYkje2hTwiQfo QXL5lXC1h7qCI0MaBzLHMiEsMaAYrG0J7X+XkWqVuNouEwwU4fsgMJVtVTIWFC91zljp KK1jue+eCOow7K4D3KfzC/3ytxLllezMzEAUgw1BBwXJjum3t7mm/nyt/Zx7N2AHMtzu PPwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; bh=XwHmaBgzYJLTiHx9Tydm3Pf8TG0RcYRK4K31bij+HpA=; b=eTaSAaFEJEtnWSy2vDFxs9ilf46iZRm6mEaGAt7/UZ2X6Lmn5czVeDoKaGC8/afINB 2GRiCkCt7Hq4PkprMi5kM+IS6gs8h9tYgDotwxPka+BiL77q151XJf5BNvtM4d9ZYsdz HSS00oNgMgHz19A4VjOGfHZTaJFrsn/ddXRtXtKWrrdean/ktcajHVx4Dp3i9YxhXcR9 7y/7Tc3mHspyn72M8VyJoiI/wmPEHm8o5urXtvNmUWn+FUID45ap57CnXv89pRTugfKf gAT+K7oHiRhYu1/jAsx0XUSZCPyd9qI0OfSA6HOsOY5evFfpEEE0PEr0ZMEm9Ph/3sjv diOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531qJt+ucJ+QZy5NSFHEQDBnLrwswrmYzNfZwKMjRcFY0FGT1Abp Rkd21dvZX3dEquuZ9JylojFFE3xOpfs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxdsIkmct1Hi7qhZus90BsrU+FrwNDckyDYGhb8QtFxRU/2EsEUHyDhLN75QJ4rxC0aQDJ7DQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:89:: with SMTP id m9mr4836822wrx.412.1605176171346; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 02:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a131sm5464851wmh.30.2020.11.12.02.16.10 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Nov 2020 02:16:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:16:11 +0000 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <5facd78e.1c69fb81.81f92.be93SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <5facd78e.1c69fb81.81f92.be93SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: strict_types will be default at some moment? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 12 November 2020 06:34:48 GMT+00:00, Mark Randall = wrote: >If that ever goes back into discussion, I think that I and many others=20 >would argue that strict_types=3D1 would be a baseline requirement of the= =20 >first edition=2E As I tried to explain in my message last night and elsewhere, the directiv= e as originally designed would not be a good fit for "editions", which impl= ies progression in some definite direction; it would need something more li= ke "flavours" of the language, equally valid but supporting different style= s=2E=20 Adding it to "editions" would just be a means to the end of removing the o= ption, but it's not clear that the case for doing that is any stronger than= it was 5 years ago=2E Regards, --=20 Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]