Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112163 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26617 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2020 19:58:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2020 19:58:08 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA85C1804B5 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:18:35 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f176.google.com (mail-lj1-f176.google.com [209.85.208.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f176.google.com with SMTP id k25so20284292lji.9 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:18:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=SU9yzyd239TSism7Hcjn0+xvBzYWG/8mF1FkTGoqOX8=; b=FyvvNr2GA4yYqKUH89I+hTtUNQHdRpwMbUzxkHH6tMWoRd+zvYE4E+GuPto5rZ6iHC U1kKMa9UlLZhfrAdgp8sqWohLdMx06d5ukSk7mPQOhYU05xsw0oShJ1wVluCnt5KDFIH X4IfLCwsGzE+lr5wMPBf9SuwurVYWX7GhfobbmCOmc7TrTZkAkqSrBjGO0FJNIb0UDfd +l6yweRVcrc/wCXupTSh3bQaPw6UeVjmwU2ma7kSn7gexzoA8/CxPOxdcZPVhduqHvC/ VvROGJNrdYTsaxLf0J4Olx1GTlnMgzEY6DjcCSPPM6G/kxTAgfvozw3kl0gUL2CxpJPp 8aKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=SU9yzyd239TSism7Hcjn0+xvBzYWG/8mF1FkTGoqOX8=; b=HhMfMhDTVrkpmeRAbkSxP+UX3pJjpCB5YSZWbW029YIvnIC1v9pwTTCY/1wYIDM0lB V+bVg2U+mRSZHAmt+C4NKpliVcBbBW2aYp3J9W/Lg4n8FNh+nstfFucJpECYIVK2nyMb BOfbu67kv+65IR1NlWMbvuUhCdfluqLZRISDG+vLSQzYb2Qfo3PXmHxKY2VijumCnbYj eUTXGyH+yqcEjTOiOQ7lrSrqrgbBLqODH59hjEorW58gCptAd7xPzmCBGJij1XcGzX/7 14/fmI+RxwT+5FHhg8BFRzTSmq5iIxWjT86sXdmCP6EYjN59lONOjeE7ZwzmC4GSz7U3 W4SQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532GcMRH74/cB8xp65zSGS5WfjQ0mJhQ871PxrIIY/2uUw2F4wGW 5z1QDZKttI0e6cBpOAyMqrIszA+JX+K+sH7aJ40Em1KfEYk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzb0fcXstfe4cJ5gdIrKmkkqSGZYloQu0QXyPQqlnMJbghZdvG45KwuEweQ38FPRc4WHzu8QB02/ff7yzL2KG4= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9dd0:: with SMTP id x16mr9591421ljj.237.1604431112386; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:18:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 21:18:20 +0200 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000853b7905b338ba1e" Subject: Fwd: [PHP-DEV] Nullsafe From: zsidelnik@gmail.com (Eugene Sidelnyk) --000000000000853b7905b338ba1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Eugene Sidelnyk Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Nullsafe To: Benjamin Morel But currently working code doesn't fail with NullPointerException? Otherwise it would not be a working code. Early fail will be when we try return / pass anywhere this value On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 6:48 PM Benjamin Morel wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 17:38, Eugene Sidelnyk wrote: > >> I am wondering why don't we use ordinary `->` operator with safe null >> handling? > > > Hi, > > - changing the current behaviour of `->` would be a huge BC break > - and if we need another reason, there are many situations where you do > want to fail early if the left operand is null, so the current operator i= s > a good fit > > =E2=80=94 Benjamin > --000000000000853b7905b338ba1e--