Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112151 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42027 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2020 20:14:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2020 20:14:55 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22221804B5 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:34:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ot1-f45.google.com (mail-ot1-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f45.google.com with SMTP id n11so6601818ota.2 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=XsShGVOmdfMZAdMofJGqqs/akaRthHTHTI8HBmwqato=; b=S+Yc8VeDKixJytc4ZxOZrj07yeTetwQdq1JyQ6JXkka2vFVVP1QO7RShd6cVsbnETA lPLfTVSS8E272zqh9oZ/utAJx8amLHWbnMl+5ppANqwmCNTeUVj0JosRhhW0uMR47+p8 qPfzT/9uI3YRZK9IRrRbfzOtCCyXBPM3euJvp7WSUZgXACy4HMh8uXSoaYzbEtp1rUCK 2Wkq0SzLo8go0Alod5qcmSFObfwIpfH/ioH8u8cNAwH0zw5VASJhH9xXS+WEr52rnkby FfLELkCIkEF9g0ZqvR6Dx5nsY420eqBl53WPAycANManFYSz/QRkoVVjiw9/em9nlM62 eKNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=XsShGVOmdfMZAdMofJGqqs/akaRthHTHTI8HBmwqato=; b=uhoiU15YkzmjT86xTNPhwwl4eN2cZwvDbpvyyzRwFzSiuf4wCfALRQIJbTmWVpjUcF 58t2BHoGDT2L4+RsZXASER2zu+t+hYIkS7Smd4U6nQsNhifu9HxU54u2AyB5Bca+BKr7 j4EyAhWHU7Le0+i909huDio9lkHm/DzyjoIjDdJJsQtKou4cOBRmtjn3+Pa+wu2MeyAs VHDvJiBsgU3/uqVGJfxXnMr3gRvxV+lWkFc+zMAC/A8MM0v04eWd1mokU5wDAnTCNWnz oXdR0nU8ru8NfP40Gi1V1fdUCc8v0XOh8Iym5WNAIWM7bXxxbhxSvwb+liP2PYmN15qE Rdqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5305GltQ9bfLl2XPZi+TietZsq2AnWIxPppvtSIgFIoWKvfuymso f61GbuR8rSoQJS1kZmWNCp0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw7VDQpcZ7OE2nKHxIcr5jIcfjYY09q23jSB8qG4YX+TAq0+vK90R+CH0bwVN2JIRQo/EC5SQ== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:73cb:: with SMTP id m11mr3004827otk.128.1604086458297; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from samurai.attlocal.net (107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net. [107.223.28.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q4sm1548555ots.34.2020.10.30.12.34.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <240C0640-32A8-479E-ADDE-09E3486238EB@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5D27337A-DA04-4F67-B09D-C084EF0383CA" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:34:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <258d9a8e-e73e-7b8a-5d9f-64a449def1da@gmail.com> Cc: PHP Internals List To: Rowan Tommins References: <258d9a8e-e73e-7b8a-5d9f-64a449def1da@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] List of attributes From: pmjones88@gmail.com (Paul Jones) --Apple-Mail=_5D27337A-DA04-4F67-B09D-C084EF0383CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Oct 30, 2020, at 14:28, Rowan Tommins > wrote: >=20 >> 3. Vote to switch to a less verbose syntax [...] >> The downside is that... >=20 > Let me stop you there. The downside is that a mob of Internals = regulars will come to your house and lynch you for asking them to vote = on the same thing yet again. It just ain't gonna happen. Yes, because we voted repeatedly until the voters "got it right" -- and = now there cannot ever be another vote on it again. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php --Apple-Mail=_5D27337A-DA04-4F67-B09D-C084EF0383CA--