Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112055 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75077 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2020 08:06:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2020 08:06:58 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DFB1804C6 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f49.google.com (mail-io1-f49.google.com [209.85.166.49]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f49.google.com with SMTP id d20so3800803iop.10 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nTnGhIIVFyMFADO8KoQCrPBkNPORUERT5mBtBHmkHF0=; b=iROLxNL/rSizsnlcdDZn0tP/qLVdg47ISe9UWpp66WbbJ07vxF66njtOCEwEy/HwXQ be8OB+DAxzRntNBe8gc+29mynAOGvTABob7Bk5EhSsnuAkKcHesQK8jfVm5HvfJD6V39 TzFpbh7WPA/+YH+lAyKLs1JG7FBWDrOomXZHbSMiRkV4l6LHunJ/zfACvn9CjZnItr+X YtSHvMydvn6KCfoOLod9G3LZ+7OKy2fC4OSvF/55B0nncNLK6oMPJUdqLel5RM50XpA3 ULYa8FyPRrbg2I4z76XlTs3sJ9/dYuXGPvYmUzBOCF3bpSBaJqIohHPYs+F+cLfu4GCt YrWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nTnGhIIVFyMFADO8KoQCrPBkNPORUERT5mBtBHmkHF0=; b=dBT9fshIy/LXNHVX+CHj0vXUOTUQitPGwB7oK1Pa/es8UCNLZ+NWEUcMPSZJ5G4X6G hVKxaYVkNiIjcVx/aJOTvIANBd+pvOvkL37RZ8875E3ZXcEHYwiPudBcPUvmDWsrAIyH EGuCOwBgkaKzd3eBPKa8PFrrkoQPjPF+V/hvvqHFLevPVMLKo/TTWiTmYQWNygTFP7Dr 8Na8RJwraE1rbQ/tp1p+a8OX1cqpTbds6FhrmAoZeZJ5NM2DG9o6byPJl01jphUmDz4D y4f80Jjb13/t1pS+GhwFB9Ge98lPHx06kADWv8EE6Xg+XmCEuYNuxF1q0BQQNRKpfndJ DC0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533NcX3TKZ0aYCJwGSozv8hqNTvTRHoi7teGwg74VFa/pZeOevsi 481NxL7nN42g0IZ2i6iTmqFPEtJ8t1Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwA0OETPJFUjid9pfZGpMnKtS6PdBWOU1MReGXhGqS6cqqbhLxHgvl2hNyX36DGODaSkhw0CA== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:5019:: with SMTP id e25mr1968355iob.123.1602660130088; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-il1-f175.google.com (mail-il1-f175.google.com. [209.85.166.175]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d6sm2161437iln.26.2020.10.14.00.22.09 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-il1-f175.google.com with SMTP id p16so4038179ilq.5 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a92:4944:: with SMTP id w65mr2891750ila.288.1602660128914; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 08:21:33 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ae1e8f05b19c63f2" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 release announcement page on php.net From: phpmailinglists@gmail.com (Peter Bowyer) --000000000000ae1e8f05b19c63f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 00:56, tyson andre wrote: > There's two main options available for testing out php in a browser right > now: > > - A general sandboxed php implementation hosted by the owners of php.net > (requires that it be secured and may lead to additional hosting costs), > https://3v4l.org/ (not open source https://3v4l.org/about - but similar > to what I was thinking of) > or https://psalm.dev/ (open source) are projects in that area > (Matthew Brown is one of the authors of Psalm) > - A WebAssembly solution, e.g. https://phan.github.io/demo/ (forked from > https://oraoto.github.io/pib/) > (I'm one of the maintainers of Phan) > Add repl.it to the list: a couple of releases behind, but works very well in my experience for testing. https://repl.it/languages/php_cli On the page: a big +1 from me. PHP needs some marketing, and I would like the content to address the objections from naysayers online who start by saying "I haven't used PHP since PHP 4/5 and I wouldn't use it because..." Can any firms that support PHP donate a copywriter or marketing executive to help? Peter --000000000000ae1e8f05b19c63f2--