Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112049 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85571 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2020 17:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2020 17:16:55 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0931801FD for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com (mail-wr1-f43.google.com [209.85.221.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id b8so59167wrn.0 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beberlei-de.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MlZ/iPb4G/s1lG42WWP5w8oXRcMeXeapwBq92mrJcvE=; b=w5ONXSnSCTcJ3IRWaXv9Z25/re/2BStvbkX2e6CI/TVwKq506lZpvnGDeJ3UA9EzNp YGsw0nzoIRG7BY7vKcVGWKYdfrUKLmedujYhun3ktVJ1i2Hah8c2ZeolmBVD3v/BomSy a+2DvgV+Mxrp3UgS0x+Nc1PcRqRGnci1b6G4k9QQ3s53C4oWeLUjO6HPJYxH3QEQMfZG j4TBGICH7OyKVkEkUYor+0o6Gm9jM+9+V7A2ENpMy1l05oCTd9YKUMZRJEy6PWKjrMJa VK+gAbN4dCz0fbejo68NZrnRHvZFesRwtU/iwJoH/3FKsuEKaKVoQug17by8F6CybAxt xCPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MlZ/iPb4G/s1lG42WWP5w8oXRcMeXeapwBq92mrJcvE=; b=NFXPZAMS1E9RzWgM3UAlqEixQ6JDn/ehsl7JQWm0fuRlbYBwvLsNMZNQx0wmuqAtTR 6JvRLEripi/Pbm+bVEQexLn81T631hHj9Y+rGfwO1wlwJ9ZmztJwh2Z8A/bSs7pMl0Pf ueMaFw75mjMDpnBh4Xn5VezQbRtRX9PMnH08wgrW+u5sCkB+RYhJs2HNd6yPQWJeIB8v VKcBNwAWsYqBkoVGzklGsT/BURzioknRkW4ZWY4LNmt98G3FOPm8AcvswwJnDfOFgJUV hEzpugQU36P5MHrQORrx6ijTYI0Rv0aeaFXffDmaQvIhdwBeAxfN9NIF5EciB0wJv6rd pZgg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5319FLh/Z8bldk2LoDSGX+r33P/o5fz8b0jDKXk8S2w+R+KYOkIY 7S1DowObypBTLU0/yI65tOL6wIKCYzUiiU2gWOl+5HSTEQzfVQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwm34QNIDo73ggUbMnjVYo8/IHaOY4uM20Na4qd+V/jjRB6YqcnaTkkoRMmDCIfWnt7ckBJEwmISSO6KxVJtQ4= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e741:: with SMTP id c1mr609846wrn.16.1602606720939; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:31:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Roman Pronskiy Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000510f5705b18ff4be" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 release announcement page on php.net From: kontakt@beberlei.de (Benjamin Eberlei) --000000000000510f5705b18ff4be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roman, On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 9:57 AM Roman Pronskiy wrote: > Hello Internals, > > The PHP 8 release is going to be huge, and in some sense, you could > say it's a whole new language. There is a feeling that more can be > done to promote it more extensively. > > Usually for releases, there=E2=80=99s a short text announcement on php.ne= t. > This may be okay for minor releases and for people who are deeply > involved in PHP as they already know about the new features. But for > the majority of PHP developers and potential PHP developers, it is not > enough. > > So, the idea is to create a separate release announcement landing page > to achieve the following goals: > > =E2=80=93 Promote the release of PHP 8 to the PHP developers > =E2=80=93 Promote PHP as a modern language, as well as the PHP 8 release,= to > the general tech audience > > Alexander Makarov, myself, and Svetlana Belozerova, a designer from > JetBrains, have created the following concept: > https://i.imgur.com/6fKmTyM.jpg > > We=E2=80=99d like to hear from you about how you like the idea. If you su= pport > it, we=E2=80=99ll finish the design and work on a PR against > github.com/php/web-php with the implementation. > > Looking forward to hearing what you think. > i love the idea! Honestly in my opinion, the actual content itself and what is or what is not on the page is not so important, this kind of release announcement post is mostly about the signal effect to the outside world that there is a force behind PHP that goes beyond "a few people tinkering on a programming language" (to be hyperbolic). As such I think we should just do it and not bikeshed over the content, or if this marketing speaks to old or new users or what does. If the overall message is along the lines is "PHP gets faster again, PHP gets more awesome features again, PHP is alive and kicking" then this is a huge win :-) > > Roman Pronskiy, > PMM at JetBrains > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --000000000000510f5705b18ff4be--