Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:112042 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5065 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2020 04:51:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2020 04:51:34 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBCB1804CC for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 21:06:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vk1-f182.google.com (mail-vk1-f182.google.com [209.85.221.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 21:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id n189so1301112vkb.3 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 21:06:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LTqRTfo5PgbaXxMgaUaR+XbvwpGo08POzE+EKJQU6hY=; b=F8tTYW484rGYE/+SsE2I4PblujTAFc8KBZWePyFVFuyxZg0ZRPIftf0rZYBdJtSMm1 c+nAEpxWeSrOdJZpo3icsE3JWePiA51XvNp55eVh+5aZLF24u/Ldlmn+7RBekVLe5p1b IWD16w+b048xAwwjWNeWwAdgoYSGRFcmpIagwQFuflXUPmRJHLVjApEbJtF6WdoPkWrU veBNaYqTV8XzgTiRNOBNtplxUTnOg8FaICOD2pPhh0pOoIXa3rgRCmWDwMXEpTzsXj94 N1ojWcatIAfts303EET30RTjCnNE9MIpIVTtuKSM2861UEvW3eeORPxbC/Ms7DOEtZwg THiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LTqRTfo5PgbaXxMgaUaR+XbvwpGo08POzE+EKJQU6hY=; b=Gjmst+K9fY4FKHw0RchM+mVfOGWzeq3YPuS/3rgWBlW9hw/NKqRJgsA494OQFc5+k+ OAu7pMn8hh/rfJkeEsK+ZhXfjoujwO9TiCS+7YbYuA5XMmdSeFVNC8eMffYrBqOhfKh4 dK7kHqchXJZFsK1U1eShjhLFHrxv/ryHHJnBO3L+t29N0wAhinrQsBu7YblAwbaE66uv 48wIrHJ4+xgDvKj4uyz59Et8qfbbXM4En3FuUDnDF/xz0bqq2V5ZXKcMSqK4u/qPGTht PkcVIhjbZGeNrCf9NP3X2LqqzpxMVikJzqyXZ2TCcOXD+M+Dl+U7WCRrNDYRf6Sehw8Z w26Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Q+oNiu61kp8frkHof/Q0s+xJ00GhEqjv+9+JEhuK2U7erYQ95 r9xWYRl/KttBS0j6JZs1qzjC4geEPvPE3M+zqG8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJztTbK2dwZoXvHAJlFLpMQ5TlrjEQ0+Zpuald08X4arNuyKyVSlIAefU/YsPKr0MGj31FZTBu7hPPb8i+EUClo= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:36cb:: with SMTP id d194mr429205vka.5.1602561994141; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 21:06:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 00:06:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: Roman Pronskiy Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000064336705b1858ae9" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 release announcement page on php.net From: matthewmatthew@gmail.com (Matthew Brown) --00000000000064336705b1858ae9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W/r/t the goals: =E2=80=93 Promote the release of PHP 8 to the PHP developers > =E2=80=93 Promote PHP as a modern language, as well as the PHP 8 release,= to the > general tech audience The page's design does a *great* job of promoting PHP 8 to existing PHP developers, but a general tech audience skeptical of PHP's modern-day relevance is unlikely to be swayed by improvements to WordPress performance. I'm not sure that PHP's reputation with non-PHP developers can be improved by a splash page. As far as php.net can help with PHP's reputation, I think a brief homepage intro that showcased some modern-looking PHP code would be great (e.g. typescriptlang.org, golang.org). The docs design could also be slightly tweaked to make everything seem newer, while still keeping the (very good) content basically the same. --00000000000064336705b1858ae9--