Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111974 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59584 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2020 15:04:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2020 15:04:15 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6959F1804B1 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f177.google.com (mail-lj1-f177.google.com [209.85.208.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f177.google.com with SMTP id u4so4776273ljd.10 for ; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G5ykF66dLXeJdhtW/2bbZuj7Nrd50i/dwJnYvKH03aw=; b=mIdFHQafnWbXZlYHMhrbUTMr6EvbdWxj1lqoEcmbvdVZOmDyHQfU4V2T4vGMZ0ZmxP sDlfQ+unYKhyNyduVMAObdGdmbXlflBM1FmcWjZpGNHx9oMP6R0Oy3X9zUB5+0/dZpJ6 xnzV+ovXLwG6PlqPTesUF4hsZ6pTMYHKQihzAnTISMB1RjddND+H4lV5clHU3euE6aSe bdHsrInKlCc9xHejLGsBCrtGJcMcs15iUf+kyHiH7DEzUJHbgIEbj96ecPH7CL+44tiD 5WcYYe5cnOegk/PTqThWWTe1irsjdiWMW466B4KO5n8DrmGpvHvTDBsoC8LeiuPAIjMu btRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531GLwE2J87AzOW486ksuvOGZDAVvAZKosfa+02VfvjBXMkh574c h7XLYHGlb+YszrfYNyrXoeyXgBhZdVrBN+xRRMAM1AETP7qwSDvvp+Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwVkndUv01dN1/cEDBTrxhjHhFhpaUSlc7G3HKio4lg9Kbqj/IWBfMP+e/n9zQuTjWsXPq83PVxI7TVzckiOeU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:958d:: with SMTP id w13mr2345935ljh.160.1601561780119; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:16:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3043b7fa-af42-6fa1-673f-a4e188f2eddb@php.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 09:16:09 -0500 Message-ID: To: Gabriel Caruso Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fd81bc05b09ca8bb" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 branch cut - The Return From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) --000000000000fd81bc05b09ca8bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 5:00 PM Gabriel Caruso wrote: > I'm gonna borrow Nikita's idea, and tag RC1 today without cutting the PHP-8.0 branch. > Late to the conversation, but I stand by Gabriel's call to proceed with release names as-is, but defer branching till RC2. To be clear, we're calling the ABI frozen from this release (RC1). Changes to the ABI should be duly considered and rejected if not essential. The user-facing API (of particular concern to named parameters) may be considered still (partially) fluid up until RC4, but please take every measure to finalize these changes sooner rather than later. We want external testing to be meaningful, and that only happens with a stable API. At this time, we should consider RC2 as a firm branch cut date. If we still have a high enough volume of changes going into 8.0 to make merging problematic, then we have a more fundamental issue with the release and it will be time to consider delaying GA through the holidays. _Nobody_ wants that. Thank you to folks working on the JIT for reaching a stable point for release, and thank you to the folks working on named parameters for their continued dedication to getting our public API into a solid state. And of course, thank you to everyone who's been contributing to PHP for both this release and the 25 years of our storied history. I treasure you all. =E2=9D=A4=EF=B8=8F -Sara --000000000000fd81bc05b09ca8bb--