Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111955 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74117 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2020 13:17:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2020 13:17:11 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA69180511 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 05:28:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f43.google.com (mail-lf1-f43.google.com [209.85.167.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 05:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f43.google.com with SMTP id y2so5244270lfy.10 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 05:28:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cYNBPxTNl0+m8eVksBl1RX9mVU9iiBrAn3JlJOVZpnY=; b=msfqmayfdKtaAJnC+jD4aT1Q1RBZa2Xdc/KSBj+OMANF3RMgRl1hR62kzFUA3hTknp O/r3SpCpUqHUWHFLm7aDztX4rxhzVByjlFgiKtGhXRu6Ofna0eCEN4X8EsLwihOE4kKq IpeXEpivG3Qf47bJfilUE/F8CE1EXkX9RcZmcsFxhxL8rPLR6Z2femRqCyPkXH/LcU8N uGGTYfrkPU7kTTXUSvJdKWnY2gQNkPmmNX9uTSmYxixAWZdLPP13z33mNrvAUNXGqXrM 7/Bs/5q5KEHhwXRCecm8pkgU5zTrCu+wH7uXvJCgJ2eFgEGwJbcmvLR5sjoYmHVupxfI ibeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cYNBPxTNl0+m8eVksBl1RX9mVU9iiBrAn3JlJOVZpnY=; b=D2ecLQYXl0uTREaH1Z05aL4O54XX5iNY4nH3pnFO07EOTakShq7fUKWjnACLTJL7/h z1WMFyJIw8YxT0ICiLNhVHFxfSxF9UzZ7iMYzj4m0Ej1k4vlLgTTO4lZL0bRfuUD5aaM xiwD0WNzQrDz9gd+ElAJw40ZiSJYQBy46756GPtUJLqefPG0xFryxFNUqbxagxUkOS6o iTaFzqIVMwGEvfMsTU3hcrPpppPIz7rB43ybPB+gj0aO5PwZG+DeMgE950E159v33wJW Ce0yKvlLdWZbV6+1yYNQ/lYkh0zwevK5tzdvkefYLwj1EQTULfcq3B97RTq49sC3HGSP vmCg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531l98XHdzoX0SHFZ/Aq2nAySsjSn2l4TTKR7x+wIK57LIFPqX53 fWBVyc16KqUNqeBsf2D0Pi167UvtaXAX74MkgV0ceRX5VTg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxnex7HWRPrVBwaWrz6ZE3HPJnS7Hjki8KP5OGeTZ8hrBPulSvjR1QbfkUC6THBAKGiJIIpqNRhA3n6o5JD/FQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5190:: with SMTP id u16mr1050240lfi.290.1601382524824; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 05:28:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3043b7fa-af42-6fa1-673f-a4e188f2eddb@php.net> In-Reply-To: <3043b7fa-af42-6fa1-673f-a4e188f2eddb@php.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:28:28 +0200 Message-ID: To: Remi Collet Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008ab31005b072ec57" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8.0 branch cut - The Return From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --0000000000008ab31005b072ec57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 2:18 PM Remi Collet wrote: > Le 29/09/2020 =C3=A0 11:55, M=C3=A1t=C3=A9 Kocsis a =C3=A9crit : > > > Personally, I think releasing RC1 is realistic now, since parameter > > names in the most important extensions (- ext/spl) have already been > > reviewed. > > I agree, nice to have "internal" API freezed, and released > to give extension maintainer enough time > > I think parameter names (public API) still can change in next RC > as named parameters are not yet widely used. > > If we choose for another beta, this probably means we'll have > to move GA date by 2 weeks (to keep same RC time, already reduced). > I'm also fine with doing the ABI freeze already now. I don't have any ABI impacting work planned, the attributes/strict_types changes were the last bit. In that case: * Bump ABI numbers and tag RC1 today * Continue working on parameter names afterwards * Cut the PHP-8.0 branch sometime in the next two weeks Nikita --0000000000008ab31005b072ec57--