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Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Global functions any() and all() on iterables
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Global functions any() and all() on iterables
From: tysonandre775@hotmail.com (tyson andre)

Hi Mark Randall,=0A=
=0A=
> Try as we might 4 of us working together couldn't get namespaces =0A=
> accepted. I got the feeling that there seems to be an opposition to them =
=0A=
> on principle, rather than the merits or drawbacks of the RFCs.=0A=
> =0A=
> Various libraries do use statics for this:=0A=
> =0A=
> Iterators::all()=0A=
=0A=
My objection to static methods in any "collection of functions" proposal is=
 that it becomes impossible to polyfill it.=0A=
If php 8.1 were to add Iterators::all(), and php 8.2 were to add Iterators:=
:none(),=0A=
polyfills would not be able to add `Iterators::none()` to php 8.1 with avai=
lable functionality=0A=
(aside: technically, there's componere, uopz and runkit7, but I don't think=
 anyone here would recommend basing a efficient and stable polyfill strateg=
y on installing and enabling those)=0A=
=0A=
For namespaces, it seemed good in principle if writing php from scratch,=0A=
but seemed like we'd be in an awkward position=0A=
where standard extensions had a mix of global and namespaced functions for =
a while,=0A=
and it'd take away time from developers and documentation team members to w=
ork on the migration to namespaces and updating tests of php-src and PECLs,=
=0A=
and people may postpone migrating to 9.0 or 10.0 because of unanalyzable co=
de using removed legacy names=0A=
=0A=
- Tyson=