Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111642 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64247 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2020 00:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2020 00:17:40 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7607B1804DB for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oi1-f173.google.com (mail-oi1-f173.google.com [209.85.167.173]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f173.google.com with SMTP id u24so432597oic.7 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cbIcNlHO+bfROUCYCLwiFLW/kG+qk13zskU2ofdGLF4=; b=uGD2MxGdD05YKmnW9ejj7YdwJ10kiI3W1E7unEwSuelqUA//qalXzsP28PW3Nu52WO VplCcIJ1DD07s2b8jV68X1+N7I7Q5pkI4dNU5mWoSsjVQWLteLhvCFE47ATnjWmT7qwE BVtITU3ylegmUbLe5Lov/lsH4M1yqNuGGTuRTmVd7ivSg5OrH/JL0Djxa9pJR8yCiiCc 23LB5OkVOESUiVh0fdRO+HUs/98LT4xPj2ti1MsfR2Hq3fqdOdYh9ieSYFSuhK3qKJfN 6HH5fS7oT79qxIFsut8IrqqI346NVyNcxXBLYk1MP/c7PdfipdE2jGUDGGYgYttKbvbw Subg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cbIcNlHO+bfROUCYCLwiFLW/kG+qk13zskU2ofdGLF4=; b=IPkNJ2I2HgdAb4LVhSohCEmiCllv+swWOKFXuDwUWEyr4Cceu3PiO+x53OSORs6sXt 6vd2Rv0ZmdSSX29UapxQK9VnN4loUuSAed+pUlxJuI9Cc6IeLsvKvqMb27GTy6S5zg2i dEqrhy6D+vxmCKpNKIlCf9nDddAnBqaFlRDfOLIHbzAPtM7RkhhtsTkKtF7TjL4AZGeA krA69WKu7lYs+luIjH1EzsRkCP9liIQYlHnriGpWk2JE4VFedgOLYDT8le21Vq+mulEm 0rTwlPepXeAP7INJLoWSbLf65inotb+xW0EstfefUMNny0lfAjoRGzHhKfy3MLdaqk1p 5Ctg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531kL8CMEBR2e7fZRVi5ZvndW52OjhJ76wHoywSdSDrIykXR8e5j fNstySBCWcdkgr1BJUQdVnxA7usg83fhaix4oKo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzPcKMiNUgXyA/w3zlp29UiINvGefjXAhWeof8MiWryHyDk9pBNXpENxjBga6NJhpZpgcf4lNbZLh5dZxjEq6o= X-Received: by 2002:aca:42c1:: with SMTP id p184mr314292oia.3.1597879149521; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:19:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:18:58 +0200 Message-ID: To: Paul Crovella Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000019ef4305ad433ba6" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Community vote on RFCs From: benjamin.morel@gmail.com (Benjamin Morel) --00000000000019ef4305ad433ba6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You're asking for useless, no-effort feedback in the form of votes > from people who have no actual involvement in the ongoing development > or maintenance of the project, so that's what I gave you. I'm surprised by these strong feelings. As a contributor and maintainer of several open source projects, I'm always influenced by the number of thumbs up/down feedback a message receives when reading discussions on GitHub, whether they are from members/contributors of the project, or from seemingly strangers. Of course, I'll often check *who *the feedback is coming from, and this influences me as well. I feel like this kind of feedback on the RFCs would be valuable to people who have a right to vote, especially if there was a way to extract specifically the feedback from open source project leads or heavy contributors. But you may disagree, of course. - Benjamin --00000000000019ef4305ad433ba6--