Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111634 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46649 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2020 22:26:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2020 22:26:10 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A00180089 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:27:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oi1-f178.google.com (mail-oi1-f178.google.com [209.85.167.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f178.google.com with SMTP id k4so223932oik.2 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tSsywudwkSQh3CrkVWs2+W9555GH0vP5WKP2KrJsc7E=; b=Jrh9Gkrpa3wBlHzHpc2YYGIe/3T+VaIOyFhmvLmh6/aJ4HDj7bJe8dBwGmrMzt4Gtn wL5BHst++jAioq0AM41KSBu55M/FVlB18sZKdn+Fj7GoGe0CeNsji+jexuHC4IQSQSxk +qgN9x2GdSNGhlbZFOlm4I+QOaOrPhMAAJAbcm4LsSyrXo4r1kCdqdaaqEMwEZHCrHiC 7ITBCC3Q69NpOR+N8ldas6m+whGxKw6ppSBV5LPCAcdfFSrzE8gLAFesAS2B6FsgpTH3 mX5E0svwfbO9/VeX3Vxg8DHQslgP6C9s9Ui1gHCMC2MSeB3mOeFK0qsxQVJ/qPfp0j8C +WaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tSsywudwkSQh3CrkVWs2+W9555GH0vP5WKP2KrJsc7E=; b=p1a02SbWPljUOcmFBp822VTvaXcNAf+1KpiDFxI1uBNCqOIpjvduBUmRb61dCRpQW7 pT8wTBMbjjT6ZX54sSj97wIuulEoQr2MjaL6doHap3NGzlTYW2M6Mlle+DQfBR0QPqjv vwYpR+ReeoMTs7gsgEIRTvf7GBtPTEQJFxTBviBwBq8S2RAvwEL0c/ceK3eVUsuCy6sU S5eyrr1UssBNjrpNMK+lKTAZhWzM9KfIXDXXkRzG33hkALLUcNmRtSmF1hsN9WIISY0W mcqmm+msK96idbYAk0zipNKfDwlgPyr6qZCP4TcUfIIouNtNkYdMka7fspwaabcg+BOb DtaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533+eeHtDKqGjUidKYF7idUoaiCEaoCoxCg4186LZvebiKxUIjaY 9Smt4di3lz6Os56Fyyn4eZ5Q/BprEoMLqlQ+n2EWrSENtRw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzZvBaKlWlXcvMcecBa0LsPooEHMKRLroCaPexjMi22FyZVPFrT9CpP7UxPRMCTJm1z5WXHxT5P6FHljTK1PkQ= X-Received: by 2002:aca:4b09:: with SMTP id y9mr89794oia.77.1597872456115; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:27:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000024ac6905ad41ac2a" Subject: Community vote on RFCs From: benjamin.morel@gmail.com (Benjamin Morel) --00000000000024ac6905ad41ac2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi internals, The heated debate about attribute syntax made me think once again that it would be valuable to get feedback in the form of votes from the community, not just from core developers, on RFCs under discussion. Understandably, the RFC voting process needs to be restricted to carefully selected people, mostly core developers. But the fact is, this process is a bit elitist, and fails to represent the community as a whole. A recent thread showed that even very active contributors to OSS are unlikely to ever get a vote. A project being nothing without its users, it would be nice to know whether an important change will make them happy or not. Therefore, I have in mind to develop (time permitting) an experimental tool, external to the PHP wiki, that would replicate the voting options of each RFC, but would allow everyone with a GitHub account to vote on the same options as the original RFC. While the vote results would not directly affect the wiki's vote results, I guess that this community feedback could be taken into consideration by wiki voters and help them make an informed decision. To be useful, a link to the community voting site would need to be present in each RFC, ideally some time before the actual voting starts on the wiki. If popular enough, this tool could offer some analysis capabilities, such as "what's the vote results from people having at least 100 commits to the top 1000 packagist projects in the last year?" to help filter out the noise. Thoughts? Kind regards, Benjamin --00000000000024ac6905ad41ac2a--