Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41268 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2020 23:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2020 23:03:54 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56EF1804AA for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:04:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from smtp.simply.com (smtp.simply.com [94.231.106.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-f49.google.com (mail-wr1-f49.google.com [209.85.221.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by smtp.simply.com (Simply.com) with ESMTPSA id 4BVp4Q27wmz62Yx for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:04:54 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=givoni.dk; s=unoeuro; t=1597701894; bh=ycc7WxiJXgtT/GJnGwS4d3449cvbC6BO3ygRwcNHcPY=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=YSHYl95cTq7ClozPzqtx118ZPzV75Tnl9ZlpAihuldAS4PHoadAuexcR52HZwnKMG OD0bJalV+9ae0jYeY8uwRGfOrhnFAA+BfgpCOcYJ5MigvOgwvQvJLJQEZZ1uy8A3YB 3doLJ7xvEGz8TVbV+hWbAxoFzAAr8U5HyeYvA+68= Received: by mail-wr1-f49.google.com with SMTP id z18so16380304wrm.12 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:04:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532xhJqX4YkA6UvS1R6mUGP3PJZ5yK0ScVakhOBP2BJgZCsUn0rP jWtGL3Vl/A99Hp5sBNJgXawSW1YIrsvV6dgl2xM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyPvfUFJZACfiefQwAr70sohtKaV349B16WrVzzAanLmRtZxZFEFDmYB1zykBH+hFWW+k2WgSxqfKeTpqAJ80Y= X-Received: by 2002:adf:818b:: with SMTP id 11mr16254697wra.141.1597701893909; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:04:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5cc837df-ab47-628a-d29b-46d7933be973@gmx.net> <3A7CECC3-CDEE-4852-BF4B-4EC7CA1BD538@pmjones.io> <7d6c42a4-53cd-5e38-4ffc-02fe490d66a3@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:04:43 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Benas IML Cc: Benjamin Eberlei , Benjamin Morel , =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBWb8WZw63FoWVrIC0gxIxWVVQgRkVM?= , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: jakob@givoni.dk (Jakob Givoni) Hi Benas, On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:34 PM Benas IML wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 12:25 AM Jakob Givoni wrote: >> >> The question is now if it's reasonable at all to change something for >> 99% purely subjective reasons (no other substantial fact has been put >> forward other than the VIM argument) well past feature freeze (yes I > > > In the future, syntax with an ending delimiter might help us to not run into new parsing issues like `@@` did. > > And yes, the future DOES indeed matter. I hate when people who don't contribute to or maintain the php-src actively try to tell otherwise. I sincerely hope you're not trying to put words in my mouth. Don't be a d*ck. > Again, in the future we might introduce a new feature that might make > attributes have more complex parts than just an argument list. In this > case, `@@` or `@:` is only going to f*** us up. It sounds like you want to develop a whole new language inside those attribute blocks... Not sure that's a good idea either, because, you know, as they say, the future DOES indeed matter ;-) Regards, Jakob