Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111545 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57397 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2020 00:07:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2020 00:07:30 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20EE180502 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from premium76-2.web-hosting.com (premium76-2.web-hosting.com [162.213.253.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pmjones.io; s=default; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=O0R10xpUJ9pObXpVS72hc/gCZnRasHrjm1bgvdCfHVE=; b=PCwFFazkZRmHjcwOwpmwr5Er7E tg4HrH+PATAN6BkQ6qpB8J7o66vRrenClaFouwQCzCl0rsIOK5QX2YeRMQYfrKmlUq4oZY8sQ8TX4 C+BVISlFsjTN+uhVbQy41Yr3wvylOHW54sJfe8hoIDyonYB5XTeLcbOG36rgDu3Xak1qrM/lEYU3l HOvtO8rJRe4IWTra3ALOiA3paoWKPbhGp/Coenbi1INX65JisFMF6NfUUofSuKQWe1d30nrP8pFoO PxR5eHmov7LZyYYMmIeOOh7uBhmijEwt7rQk8gIgilhzHlMf4ZnjiLKpQBS0+LU4+OTaBYLC7HSOP NPnChfEw==; Received: from 107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net ([107.223.28.39]:54854 helo=[192.168.1.85]) by premium76.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1k75HG-0014QG-9R; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 19:07:59 -0400 Message-ID: <49E44F43-C140-41BD-8F95-CAF6154503DA@pmjones.io> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3F8A8DCB-40EA-4DFE-AD6C-C1390619878A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 18:07:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Jakob Givoni , Benjamin Morel , =?utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBWb8WZw63FoWVrIC0gxIxWVVQgRkVM?= , PHP Internals To: Benjamin Eberlei References: <5cc837df-ab47-628a-d29b-46d7933be973@gmx.net> <3A7CECC3-CDEE-4852-BF4B-4EC7CA1BD538@pmjones.io> <7d6c42a4-53cd-5e38-4ffc-02fe490d66a3@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium76.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pmjones.io X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium76.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Authenticated-Sender: premium76.web-hosting.com: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: pmjones@pmjones.io ("Paul M. Jones") --Apple-Mail=_3F8A8DCB-40EA-4DFE-AD6C-C1390619878A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HI all, > On Aug 15, 2020, at 18:00, Benjamin Eberlei = wrote: >=20 > Additionally, Derick and I are waiting for word from Sara and Gabriel = at > the moment, but we suggested to close and reset the vote to wait until = the > discussion period is over on Tuesday to accommodate the criticism of = us > prematurely starting the vote (by accident, not intentionally). /me furrows brow If I understand correctly, that means the currently-running vote = overlaps with the discussion period? If so, that sounds (again) highly = irregular. The proper thing to do here is a full reset: restart the 2-week = discussion period at the moment the current vote is declared null and = void, then start a new vote (if the RFC is not withdrawn) after thatn = 2-week period. Basically, the sooner the current vote is explicitly declared null and = avoid, the sooner the properly-conducted 2-week discussion period can = begin. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php --Apple-Mail=_3F8A8DCB-40EA-4DFE-AD6C-C1390619878A--