Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111534 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79847 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2020 11:44:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2020 11:44:14 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00F61804D2 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 03:44:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 03:44:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1597488275; bh=VUZc+bP5hAK6lktYo5cqdZD1nTopafkVcI4XnhFz0zQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=QEu3rSvzyyKstwUL7LkZw0mcuFqPjFk+s5J8aUk+YxvY4lWTxrTpVxi0jaML0vIl0 KzFTgtDXKxonjHIWAucSdHQ8lT8Mohpsv2oXicvK1PizzrYHmg2urtHEStKKs1ls+t YNQuuRYkCrTquoWdVH67YGNduNXLoZ7AQRlpL7zc= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.120] ([24.134.51.41]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MRmjw-1kHNI90phq-00TEr9 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:44:35 +0200 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5cc837df-ab47-628a-d29b-46d7933be973@gmx.net> <3A7CECC3-CDEE-4852-BF4B-4EC7CA1BD538@pmjones.io> <7d6c42a4-53cd-5e38-4ffc-02fe490d66a3@gmx.net> Message-ID: <6e12612e-4429-3789-8486-b85a331942df@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:44:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3WSQ6EOxibRIOZxBhR5FxhJg4qRxcMmXbF/qXj3um0zsHqUo7+1 pv/Is/V3TcZst2eq4hxzyqC4lW0r74zzigZ/kef0F0re0LRX06rNIwl3e20kuE4zyilNFev 8uSjr6YY1V/Sx+sR5LinUcqT4YqS4G+4lZm25Z1p6tUsqgLl7tSM9W5tR4k5bLGM84mBi3C BP+2Ok1MnSUBIR1B+q/9Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:SMGsD+VQzdw=:55yGp0cjRyPTMD0u3jR771 Bjc8y5VIza7HW25/aqs2vQLpg0oA3pSLqPAz4+ErNw802wLl43W7on5oenCZEQiTYm56D8Ohn ruMcERpkHPwMzuj4EZCK2tIjaKgCGDyCpBaMCxQ1Ld9XSxvONw/i1A6zL5XTgB1sj3XyJJKSH 89hdEEiPbzMcnuSaTXuxu9HDo53Atiosuh4mX2ZKMtZ7OG++RuO4w1slO+PS66KPimtD9PAFR RJ8/8Y6tu4j/mu4LjkebwHMO6hRuBCp4BWt4hj6GnK13PjdrKns6NDYjO1Tm1HjphTxUcHbYp 2jzQo1vzAmZCzCUCzLwhl6xvU9kyXPS3uNiTGVuc0DA9lFpY+ZXpQOTJS7hX78qTpvQumc7WY m39GXDbhf6HsZ/IoJloxDTf2xmBcTa73iLfHsk61njJMjDdPJbrrrMeQJU/qmCjNNh24pY0x3 SXV/9PmpCZIbpu7xyHK2XiMKl6zEMfbNgKIOe6PpMxkysGvgADAWtT7n3p/QK7xymko00ruXk hLeOjdzYrzijZKq4g02f4hIcEgNZFmaJyrziGMJl+sigYJGBMvN47HOjAuJDn996fPUHRc52K 5M6XyyizByVtkTDv2EiHcAiCw8Z5/XI+TddMFzO6OIPqEASXsnVsZK5EUbd13u7wqG7SqEX/Q XCLM07g72Ea9sk8o9bVcUJm3shd59F/JBBvsiRuQBoJn/wWnL0Mj/iBdN9SDE6dR77VVNp701 +G7K5m8SwUogiTFwcDtuyohYz0q27zRmfWLqCY6YyoRkzYvjQv+dsNvfi6MdfNEP/Bi9oaiRr jtHggaHnxJr6gl5DyTzen61t6T1OHuAOQY7RnjRd1rhIFfGXBFcbEPe4qBGTrSkyPQDsRL8aQ dQPGDWwimBfFMUX+lcQYlfmn3bMj1wlPMefM7KtQCTreu4REcl1Q/tCbTNC5X7g6yt+PnPEnf ceEeEKP3Jr97K0rIgzhnlYHHyD+Qmd9RcU3uzbtT5S00hF/6K+/rne4bTspBjADrt3Kd0HX7M GqPXIgCTOlxhkYQA5jNSzLj8sHMGtz08aOu6sWMNBPqBmcM2m66OLp09nHlDQdhVsDIarbROI 1CjkzeP325KRPgJHDzjuByxNCRa/5Hc1HnzLcjbumJUNcXimkqgMiuXnY7TgShUpA8UVG9xJn 1iecuhzkEZUs+C4T6vcE8m78BvJrT6RHgqiRRdpefj7kaeEOi4VfBBvjDrswda3SHSFiVzD1v 8upuHq2AmeMlgmXjxxUHUvBM+za/VLT+99sGd/w== Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: a.leathley@gmx.net (Andreas Leathley) On 15.08.20 12:35, Micha=C5=82 Marcin Brzuchalski wrote: > If you wanna follow democratic rules then first of all 4 is not a quorum= . > Secondly, you should be fine with additional voting about stopping curre= nt > RFC vote, right? The RFC process has been agreed upon by the people involved with PHP. It does not matter if only one person complains about a rule violation, it should be taken seriously, as the PHP project publicly states that it follows this kind of RFC process. And there was a democratic vote on the RFC process. You seem to mix different concerns - there is no need for a quorum when agreed upon rules are violated. If you steal a purse, then the people of your country do not have to have a vote if that is a crime - it was agreed upon beforehand that it is.