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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change
From: a.leathley@gmx.net (Andreas Leathley)

On 15.08.20 11:54, Micha=C5=82 Marcin Brzuchalski wrote:
> I don't think there's anything significant changed in the RFC. I really
> doubt the vote result will change significantly.
>
> Currently you're the only one who wants to wipe the vote and there is no
> much voices willing to follow your proposal.
>
> Personally I think extending the vote by additional week is fair enough.

Next to Theodore, at least 4 other people in this mailing list have
stated that they think the RFC process should be followed as stated in
the RFC documents (with proper time for discussion and voting, which was
clearly not adhered to) and/or that there is important information
missing in the RFC, which both should lead to a change of the RFC and a
revote.

I am a bit surprised at how casually the RFC process is interpreted - it
is the basis of how decisions are made for PHP, yet multiple people have
already stated they don't really feel like following the process as
described/agreed upon, one of them Derick, a long-time member of PHP
Internals, who I would think would want to be a role model for the
process. Why even have an RFC process, if parts of it can be ignored
depending on the mood of some of its more influential members? Does this
behavior inspire confidence in PHP as a language?

By the way, the RFC has not yet changed and is still incomplete as of
now, and updating it at this time would probably not do much - because
how many people re-read an RFC where they already cast the vote? It is
unexpected that an RFC is heavily changed after voting has initiated -
you would expect it to be complete at that time.