Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111515 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88438 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2020 15:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2020 15:34:16 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675FD18053B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:34:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from premium76-2.web-hosting.com (premium76-2.web-hosting.com [162.213.253.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pmjones.io; s=default; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=x/zbS4a/4ZzfaPpoOxBHwsy7xXK9OKu48tY83YILQvU=; b=sdl8LeY5asOnqVL3zKEd83vg4F /pKkS+lKkQZXwuAMoL+CvmL2t4FIX1rQabzVrKNpmbpGY7YCRQfdbqmUef2bJRcz6I+60o411Q1XM Z1B0vof7e9SyiWIPUwEfaL8IMppMsxnPDQbeAyaOILHjXyc7MC6Yj8URAIt6Xhwez4Gzo0TIxxSac kOWWMSSh3in8vsVv1TpDBONYRihekSnexl1fiXoCUqO4vwdbNX5L39vq1CvTXSul389vth6fsu/50 qVb4K94bC3o+WG7+dZRNN+HOKY9y5Yb6ogtFGQNsz4xoYjA2/CwLbfTpbml5fQmbeB6O8MdzjB+RJ +qtyHINQ==; Received: from 107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net ([107.223.28.39]:56554 helo=samurai.attlocal.net) by premium76.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1k6ami-003qso-LF; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 10:34:25 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2B289D5F-3E51-40B9-B7F6-261257B563F2" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:34:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Theodore Brown , Levi Morrison , Derick Rethans , "internals@lists.php.net" , Sara Golemon To: Benjamin Eberlei References: <5cc837df-ab47-628a-d29b-46d7933be973@gmx.net> <3A7CECC3-CDEE-4852-BF4B-4EC7CA1BD538@pmjones.io> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium76.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pmjones.io X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium76.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Authenticated-Sender: premium76.web-hosting.com: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: pmjones@pmjones.io ("Paul M. Jones") --Apple-Mail=_2B289D5F-3E51-40B9-B7F6-261257B563F2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Aug 14, 2020, at 09:16, Benjamin Eberlei = wrote: >=20 > What do you mean by defer exactly? Stop voting or reset the vote? We = were > thinking of extending the vote until September 1st. For my part, "extending a vote that started too early to let it run = longer" is not a reasonable remedy. The right thing to do here is not to = try to salvage the time spent and thereby depart even further from = normal conduct, but instead to stop the vote, declare it null and void, = and restart a proper two-week pre-vote discussion period. (That presumes the need for the RFC even exists, which I submit it does = not -- but that's a separate topic.) --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php --Apple-Mail=_2B289D5F-3E51-40B9-B7F6-261257B563F2--