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x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255;CTRY:;LANG:en;SCL:0;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;H:BYAPR05MB6535.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;PTR:;CAT:NONE;SFS:;DIR:OUT;SFP:1901; x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DM6NAM12FT050.eop-nam12.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 6655ceb0-a282-4c57-a340-08d83ecebd71 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Aug 2020 14:48:13.4871 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6NAM12HT253 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: theodorejb@outlook.com (Theodore Brown) On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:41 AM Derick Rethans wrote:=0A= =0A= >I've just opened the vote to make sure we don't make a terrible mistake=0A= > with using the @@ syntax for attributes:=0A= >=0A= > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax_change#voting=0A= >=0A= > The vote ends August 23, 24:00 UTC.=0A= =0A= It has just come to my attention that this RFC was rushed to vote=0A= after less than the minimum two week period required after it was=0A= brought up on list. Furthermore, discussion was still very active at=0A= that time - I certainly didn't have a chance to respond to some of=0A= the emails before voting began.=0A= =0A= Joe first announced this RFC on Tuesday, July 28 at 9:47 AM, and the=0A= vote was started this Monday at 3:41 AM, less than 12 days, 18 hours=0A= after the announcement. Per the voting rules:=0A= =0A= > a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language=0A= > is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. [1]=0A= =0A= What should be done to prevent this rule from being violated?=0A= =0A= Also, I still don't understand why this RFC has a special exemption=0A= to the feature freeze deadline, given that the whole basis for it=0A= (a supposed lack of consistency) is at best a subjective opinion.=0A= =0A= Can the RMs please weigh in?=0A= =0A= Kind regards, =0A= Theodore=0A= =0A= [1]: https://wiki.php.net/RFC/voting#discussion_period=