Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111465 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50532 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2020 14:30:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2020 14:30:58 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD871804D9 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 06:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-il1-f176.google.com (mail-il1-f176.google.com [209.85.166.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 06:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-il1-f176.google.com with SMTP id t4so10577268iln.1 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 06:30:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jn9U5HBzj7kWp+yNALusFiu/j0al9tfD1GpgaGvcvVc=; b=dOoU8TVTpEtK6ly2pT4vBZy69dT/Rj68ycPn+9yeDL7fhUJEGOIBAT2lGYgaSCL8Ln gt8bx49whrgjC7u5mQlWNiF+8P6cJfJKTVKnHX9BvB0Je/IFougH3untyccfF7AOQ6XB yc4FcBiMsAKL8b1i97XRMjOzhcJbbn7C392atqEIte+c1G/I+DuH+d+hxO2CN17oKTZB nhQ5bsxycaaA++bdgJH9n/1zDysO0u+Vje6J9kRswY9USBcxE4/1sG+AYpKjxSRUrCLq UevY5M9vkZz7TTqyKqUBaFA1fayOu6VVNZovPZin6tClc/n7ZdHugTtfM8jifjlTHTIv NvTQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=jn9U5HBzj7kWp+yNALusFiu/j0al9tfD1GpgaGvcvVc=; b=mIkG0yZbHtd+4VgE4hOCIbDtdLNYTiFimawqb7Z23yXFFABeITcXia8/kpYzxVvoY7 kLbHmeiSCm6NpIHqpJueDhUuSZvObe9Auw4KDbpd/ydTXbfWzx01qIc7IM+ltHQmGDuH FlJh/PIAAIvBr0spqvFEtGScM+IvBm/eb4ktPcUW5hV+4KFAQ1tIm79qD6RRl6rAVBB2 qk8AO0liAFrbc8T3D50wJoySpKsbny0nyAmeooQZVbbjTjI6BkOlU0tU466Bjr+iFYYe hn3EIvOc4gW8Q/Dg2Y02cg61qjXrfy/IMQQHlzrq7jCIOa6S9YYUKggv2GtJiZq6e80Z Lk5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532+eAfVdMywwJpfImvSA2q4jw21ACU3HV4pd2jRUh05NTXZPt29 zIUz/XLRSVfQDul6g7iEp9/cC11SmMxrzW+YTcH9oA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+wbuX+pR+SZX3+NMX9iEM0tfEnyGT0Q4KWNBK3jKLBqIXz+eAXj0SXvFZYQY0F0979R8yQSbxZXmV8xtcUHc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:dee:: with SMTP id m14mr17007843ilj.207.1597152621828; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 06:30:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:30:09 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ad1cc705ac9a12a0" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) --000000000000ad1cc705ac9a12a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 14:16, Lynn wrote: > In terms of @[] typability, my IDE auto completes the ] when I type [. > I really, really, hate when editors and IDEs do that, and switch off every variant of it I can find in the settings. Either it will get it wrong because I'm editing code not writing from scratch; or it will get it right but I'll type the punctuation myself before I notice that; in both cases, it takes _more_ effort to type with that feature than without it. As far as the UK keyboard layout's concerned, all four of the options in this week's list use buttons to the right of the letters, although #[] is the only one that doesn't need any use of shift. Which mostly just goes to show that pretty much any punctuation will be hard to type on some layouts and easy on others. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] --000000000000ad1cc705ac9a12a0--