Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111433 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68542 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2020 14:57:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2020 14:57:07 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4304180533 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com (mail-wr1-f45.google.com [209.85.221.45]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id a5so8285057wrm.6 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beberlei-de.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pdW3KBkWC5gD7XCcKVfv3b7MuYmYBqZAa2c4SAPBZus=; b=SKPswiXmbQLQStJZImi1+6wiIa7Z5oDhUqJa8MGaWL2pHI/XkVQyBbGVc6mIfStfXy Y+mVaOzLGp3vW5sxQsextBHyRYwwlZKrycCxS00Lubrcoidphi3aIS788dQcmpkzOShd p7YhKkZrr1128CXUNO2u+oW5jvyfw5RjyHDMVpN38n95nYxs/jEolr3QkG7OUwph1C1F 2LJb68bnwCH6A2HFi0iZYmYL3R2yWfsTLveoKoPOD+wn4eM5lTDsjqEk+E0/THXYSi7B aXFJBbSLtvqeXvgYmF9mNnaY+yKsr4kUD3ZITAKM9DzP1oWO9/BEpvz6A6nHRgFX8Iqv qd0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pdW3KBkWC5gD7XCcKVfv3b7MuYmYBqZAa2c4SAPBZus=; b=IXJfljaapLrWihUxaFFhAIrYfLi0LyVXIGRHmkncVRTK1BZZDv2A+lqx7fZaa9WK/i pI8DDJmDkfErK2EDu5+GSvqL9RFdTwOR38nv5aMQpZUqrqkgXqQNCT7DzG4UQlPKqL80 KL6wTf92oOnR41+SNAazCzpaB6foO1Zol7313LkoiHQDPdWS6MUADDi7KiKKEDeDIxcR XvDpbTzNpRj94BiWDd9k+MfNd8IU+5N5FD+CKcyW26Or6aTDngeuxtVsylYa9SKXdNNj aK+h3qGF7sbL+o5HlD7vYOHEVhg17yzee4S54OOQ8Rm+ZOQU765pm98poALoDtBSZp8l a0uw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5326nfjUgNGtgAJ6R8oSrKnpzEHW8lgxIExQWk+R8Q5GBBXMKTyP NVzR09ZjDDXDz4VyEsQFyB7NnPB4QkDqsQLMkSve/fYJyEA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyeJC5nBGRB+xiHbpgT1IUP9BRBz5WeWFprXr/JQfZfAcEfg01KykMw3cFbNsrU+2aQHxxCJplxrau3PQTg4Ms= X-Received: by 2002:adf:ce89:: with SMTP id r9mr26546198wrn.116.1597067773963; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 06:56:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:56:02 +0200 Message-ID: To: Rowan Tommins Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005983b005ac8651bf" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: kontakt@beberlei.de (Benjamin Eberlei) --0000000000005983b005ac8651bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:40 PM Rowan Tommins wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 at 14:08, Benjamin Eberlei > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:28 AM Peter Bowyer > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> I have voted no because I asked a question about the ending delimiter > and > >> why () didn't count. Another person asked a similar question and neither > >> of > >> us got a reply. > >> > > > > () does not count as ending symbol, because it is not required, as such > > its not an ending symbol. > > > > > The question asked was that _if the parentheses were made mandatory_, would > this provide the same benefits ascribed to the other syntaxes? > > To avoid repeating myself, here are the previous posts where I elaborated > on this question: > > * https://externals.io/message/111312#111342 > * https://externals.io/message/111312#111354 For me It would indeed make a slight difference, but not wanting to speak for Theodore, I believe he did not want to add this as another option to vote upon, when I asked him. based on the argument that new also doesn't require () it makes sense to me. And for me I didn't want to add it, because then we can just go back to <<>>, which would at least be symmetrical. I.e. @@Jit() vs <> > > > > Regards, > -- > Rowan Tommins > [IMSoP] > --0000000000005983b005ac8651bf--