Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111423 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49930 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2020 13:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2020 13:10:55 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DE518050A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 05:10:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com (mail-wr1-f43.google.com [209.85.221.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 05:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id f1so7929780wro.2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 05:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beberlei-de.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Pw1XOoKqSEKHVTZolxnu7JmsyXwuTCwUpotEZwlBUF4=; b=0UrxcxJhg44MI1RXMoT4z6xZxTlr6/gIfsH1nT3o/R/Ps304bngRpH4hP/Gi1jJ5IS Z6GUGoQMoo78h9noS1sDuH406vbtAMyEq6kVYtq+ZhI1rh5VjKV/cUTyfILmiVjbZ403 EQhuzUmNGFr+etp6Jt/KxOYcNk1O18e1Z7aKrQwl9WO8AB2j4fRtYyvE0gP3NwIFoPMq RyThdTJV/UjSiKAtj+KkJXP/p4dddRQcjpYUnV+lV7K7E+V3Iy8RcLBh4h59hjSJOnT/ LU9EPi3wFBLi3Scq+vlmyO1UNgJBNo5MGL/sIXDIOY3Tvp7/cmvQc3wkjQzJkC9XLP3n t59Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Pw1XOoKqSEKHVTZolxnu7JmsyXwuTCwUpotEZwlBUF4=; b=eS3x3j7eq8wnqU//mGr0gaihx2dRdGq6mkiCNeVV2YN1JMQsGlqRAKPnQ26SHPfDwq 57AUSRziJfUcOmEqgIbTNYmDMH9zEcUqn8Rgwy6cyUTqTxCSZhUtOTcIV8Gl11g9HktL mty1PdDsRfJxyPPPK7gUgtNKx++tXPm1fs95+S1H8wqBzkvWDKufwRE6QmaqoKdnc7eN JQlQOJsPsA5Du7a2FLA3EJBgwt9GnUO1/jNhC9smuP4Hie86Rciun7xjmNVgeetl0CFc GYIjsyR3HIVwRZ5gqSShH+SrjVMNY3d1z+xVhDwxqSqGa9nc2NubXuFhfvZ/h0+XnKJB +R5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532k2Wv35+csrnwxb4THfW2ImZpKZUFwjhsYZ6FcvQP4392Tl7Lh ld6AqXUCLzBe8zXSbPGG/c4Q/MBRJWGHmfrOIngh3w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwMggoChUWpgHpoyjbWUl1MqvJy+T4xx0BMs7oh0yFt9Uod9ACcM0vkLTidKCmOQh++kv8cIXGVtam0fxyB/jA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:edd0:: with SMTP id v16mr1241766wro.271.1597061400439; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 05:10:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 14:09:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Rowan Tommins Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007541a205ac84d505" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: kontakt@beberlei.de (Benjamin Eberlei) --0000000000007541a205ac84d505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:16 AM Rowan Tommins wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 at 09:41, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > I've just opened the vote to make sure we don't make a terrible mistake > > with using the @@ syntax for attributes: > > > > [...] > > > > Please have a objective look at the table > > (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax_change#proposal) and > > don't just go by asthetics. > > > > > Hi Derick, > > I am not a fan of the @@ syntax, and respect what you're trying to do with > this RFC, but am disappointed you haven't engaged with those of us who said > that the RFC needs more detail. There is simply not enough information in > that table to "have an objective look", and the only other text in the RFC > makes a vague assertion about the lack of ending symbol which I still don't > understand the significance of. > > If I had a vote, I would vote "No" in the primary vote, not because I think > the current syntax is perfect, but because I don't think this RFC makes a > good case for a revote, and strongly suspect it will just be another beauty > contest. > I am sorry this was a misunderstanding between Derick and I. I had worked on the more detail already, but we had a miscommunication about updating the RFC. I add my notes in a few minutes, sorry :-( > > Regards, > -- > Rowan Tommins > [IMSoP] > --0000000000007541a205ac84d505--