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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:53:33 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change RFC 0.2
From: pmjones@pmjones.io ("Paul M. Jones")

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Hi all,

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 17:07, Pedro Magalh=C3=A3es <mail@pmmaga.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> I'd like to reinforce the idea that this RFC (as all RFCs) needs a =
Yes/No
> primary vote which should attain a 2/3 majority to pass. As it was the =
case
> with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax, it had a =
primary
> vote asking "Are you okay with re-voting on the attribute syntax for =
PHP
> 8.0?" and that vote passed with 50 to 8.
>=20
> The primary vote on this RFC could be the exact same question, but I
> believe the primary vote needs to be there. Without this primary vote, =
we
> could be enacting a change that only (with 4 options) 25%+1 voters =
support,
> which is clearly insufficient. However, if 2/3 of the voters agree =
that
> something needs to change, they are also accepting that the change may =
not
> be the one they prefer.

Hear, hear. If this RFC *must* go to a vote (and that is not a given), =
then adding a primary vote along the lines of "Are you okay with =
re-voting on the attribute syntax for PHP 8.0?" would go a long way =
toward alleviating the "vote until the voters get it 'right'" problem.


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