Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111330 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8756 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2020 19:43:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2020 19:43:31 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522071804C2; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 11:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1596566472; bh=bwcUcsnxMU2d/7bkkoP4BdAE2IaPXdB0pq2HY7XMMj0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hPwAr/QiGrJGHrmKuYBQtPzPnMxMuk40t5ZY5wR2DakO2/UR78G3WNvEVInPd9CbI 2gx6RaaWXzLWTvq523McNyE0o7Fb4ZvFbwuF69lVVyQW056ZvaqXzA6BfLWU6Pb+xa 5kpyLdTUhhzCKvB69Bq8vUVImixHXjXo8Bhxo5zM= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([79.222.35.225]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MRTRN-1kPwRp1HwD-00NOKh; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 20:41:12 +0200 To: Sara Golemon , Nikita Popov Cc: Gabriel Caruso , PHP Internals References: Message-ID: <86cd1571-3e8c-5fe8-c4e1-4fde5cac365c@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:41:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+SrAntIamBNmTKtjnIZM1wGtIgSV82Wy2f3TYoHXWDA9OCyqsPn sklLXWNzBLMHKg2EE96MloBbqwTviks2umrT/LivzwkpvEa3ef99ZQD4/eNEeYztIowxbJE qN187IINOiMYSrpnYPRMhmxUyU0sQkplSr7LMgBfvYMJhbt6knbiquCce8/cWyVqP5Grr15 4ECxUNgj5bc1EvdSHrmLQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Q9sz/Jg6eUk=:KqTyCiW3Zd8j+cMDz0tR6W kEengfM97M1ABp/6EyBJtRymVklKH0JBF7V+/ml+pn+BEEa9G7uI8EVeoOt9DZGnALamy0XwA Qd0BrTEbDlXPVzY8mlhvJ3uXt7EHZj0k4NZTY79X5ZGJOzkxl1P00j/0SN6ShbP378ICRUwr9 n+FKXNDYH0qefXEjEXv1xZPbUF/emihp8EPGSfjxbdmPBnHy+WxebI5qz7xIZcNErfx+cAKaJ XOs/NErYe/uTONBYgO2bzCwKhmPeLQYHufDeXlICK3Ur3Od8FmKv2AnFbGqlXix6aPSE4/W33 aKJxiC/bRVMOrxDJNFABoI8cfODtFoZSF8Lp43PQNPc9gTiXIwXIrN0F85+Fz8ZSQ3h21HpDG uzEhPxL8A1JNv6eXqWsWjrg6xvVFVLMyf6+PKCUaNXmiCIKj37RlSKPFdxtGpAuKlXsBbzT5M KyJIY2PFr9g2kXHO/r2N9GJOHmsdLL6Ul4NkNI4pHQ+oybRoax2enxM1HoPWc+2LmAaHf8atX uMx5MXdbm3BDmNGrvep9s1fm6NvcCizm7wLrSaZLcHs39lOWL6Vku6sQ5zC3MhzoCw8GA7rOG 3b85EeGT7qeceX2JyRF0MO823QW17ef1fGmi4BdIbjrZRjCXVFbO78yOInTCSga92oX5P8rTy f22Ydm8koxZG1QeV/5XrbzLNow0tF+IQBPjR7Lkb3UehQyi4KTrlhv9FRKhdsAlz0pUAco6cr ZLl518A4F+GAfN9cyef/QKRkx2EgAtlqXJtGChjB+QCAOopvmEu5a/l6vRC6qG56HS5PnhU71 YsFwDfzehslYF9lSudUg8wrhHQItly0MS9Hh/cUDEPvg3cHx2dHZu+fkCwM41lUquNI+8XENX wlqfTtp49smugE/ViKj6QmwYvorELOqvbp9h7IDCu7X0zTdqSNVn/BHBJokD8gmfdKiZb8opt HU2rD8nPszvlmj9x4d65Ss8wDHZqrr67Ab39AGT1S0C9BNDkugHTJZ5rWDb/77jOwEtpFOmkj V7T6sCSxuNBBvVjS9qHQBinaGZ+D6Y5OP62TLKUbof5Buy4Uusb9hOZkZM8LGMWvG1xirdv+P 8IaxMYbtNT0APT6PFhZyYXBivfMxqa0q5ZKsSdDir3/KZoWloVYuT/7phqYhQn1MVRYZMhCi9 tEqxjY1Dc3Ha9prZhRKFsUf45hx+FPnLTt4m0XROzpFVuEYyiUMpo92rcwMbEonVeD5D2p3X2 W84xr8SVedVAJ1zoAF9ywjBO4fZMJ0Snm5tC5xg== Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 8.0 Feature Freeze happening today From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 04.08.2020 at 20:22, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:01 PM Nikita Popov wrot= e: > >> Sorry, I didn't catch that this message said feature freeze *and branch= *. >> >> Please do not create a separate PHP-8.0 branch yet. A separate branch i= s >> only needed if anyone wants to start landing changes targeting PHP 8.1 >> already -- as far as I'm aware, nobody is actively working on PHP 8.1 y= et. > > This is how we've done it since we adopted the formalized release proces= s. > :/ Well, we made an exception for 7.4 which has been branched half a year earlier[1] =E2=80=93 and I don't think that hurt anybody. :) Delaying the PHP-8.0 branch makes sense to, so we all can focus on the new major version (there's certainly of lot of small issue to be improved, and one or three bugs to be fixed). >> Due to our git workflow, creating a branch now means that every single >> commit to PHP 8.0 will also require a merge into master. This is a rath= er >> big waste of time and CI resources if we expect PHP-8.0 and master to b= e >> identical in the near future. > > I, for one, plan to start pushing resource->object conversions that are > targeting 8.1, so to me it makes sense to have that development branch o= pen > already. Well, but waiting for a few weeks shouldn't be an issue either, I supposed= . > Do others feel strongly one way or the other? No strong feelings either way, but I'm in favor of delaying the branching. [1] =2D- Christoph M. Becker