Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111301 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79446 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2020 19:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2020 19:54:20 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AADE180544 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:51:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pf1-f193.google.com (mail-pf1-f193.google.com [209.85.210.193]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf1-f193.google.com with SMTP id z188so10836073pfc.6 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 11:51:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hNxYYO/elq3Y8AtR3dDnKzBA63sC6u9d6ZHiSiSCrak=; b=S1dMnCWmdAg/ExA780JA7GTT71wy9GMh1ygMBglvzkio5o5tkDsL1mGF0diR43+7OE AnyBLWsi0OIwju27Vva+fqo1iv8UNY/wcyU+JSUHQj52KzqfzRsDJoqi2IC7x/4gZQ1L vxFX/d6eegaV1gn/IcbdGbS/nAcV19yCrHEB2m5ZLQz6rEiXecVYHjTemA3A8/qd5B8r 3CDRazUeIQxEsnv2BD1U74ZkR5J5BkXYiWFkvIQHQdTEpOhLVgNdUEDZRBWgb316Nwk1 DgVw3MG6jSAJmc8Kyl+H5T/W6YqCH3Nh2wbO8iiQ672/m5DfZlPwxVr5cVl8bT7YBYWT WUbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hNxYYO/elq3Y8AtR3dDnKzBA63sC6u9d6ZHiSiSCrak=; b=rZryXbJWaoPzWRs2JW990bJemCC9LLIHK5a6bIaX6bhbPq2ffi1Pj04jFZn/YMGxLL 5234XqcQm91iUJWbQzFaXLtkZk+R078MLm2h2HwHhgwWsKuYOG6i0qME7D35wqlbxYmC 80MpNTPo87TqJl16rMruGlZ9smots+87aThS4CKUnaxsq/HyTlALDp5MngU2aLzPCyic XBQfhqV6nogmWW2G70vXShOf6zyJqiqTsNBe+xgJ/ScRNNcPgZJnkaBRwAuUkHVA+AvV 1h+RmL+cL1L8gFp2ihODjX92Vy7JK1NJe2YJGZj+b/7tqQePzWRt+N/9WQx4D/Ky3lqK Ia9w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533W/779MMtSfaqFZT0yurp4YEqb5hY2rTWq7uK0W2ZXKuDiP+Z/ brlu9OKOKHubLuNwzNFEtw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJze0K6P5rmq/Vm+WNIeICWNLlkswMemPDgssy/1tIG82xjEBNsChiKOjYfTgINHXo4KRVAwZw== X-Received: by 2002:a63:2104:: with SMTP id h4mr16462799pgh.427.1596480705783; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Mac-3.local (ec2-34-209-88-149.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com. [34.209.88.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id hi13sm221821pjb.26.2020.08.03.11.51.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2020 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) To: Benjamin Eberlei , PHP Internals , Dmitry Stogov , Nikita Popov References: Message-ID: <0e6dff76-0434-4d21-dc08-1fa1bf41a1e0@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:51:43 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] @@Jit Attribute Considerations From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Only the trigger mode 4 (attributes) is actually using @@Jit("tracing") and > "function". This trigger mode feels like micro-management for developers > and since it has virtually no spotlight in discussions and blog posts about > the JIT at the moment, we don't know if it brings benefits. I think turning JIT off is a valid use case, the rest looks much more iffy. I am not sure we want to let people tell the engine to JIT certain functions - are there a lot of cases where the engine wouldn't do it but it's actually the right thing to do? Don't see any use for "opcache.jit=attributes". -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com