Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111247 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99826 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2020 13:45:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2020 13:45:41 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEAD180509 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:41:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from premium76-2.web-hosting.com (premium76-2.web-hosting.com [162.213.253.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pmjones.io; s=default; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XP1+9LGIlJ3kJtcTzh0P6qUhEuIXRSN9GTmbgeV6suw=; b=Vdw7uP3V0fEK/K5V8ljeJEPtPu DX4KDXkzlPQpgkmIqlKfA2vurbEFJJ7VnJIenomO/l/azzLwBIPl390QEeOZkimFxKcqxo6YdE2/5 44fgazLxz89smX/4fGwSm75TWzV/EjwoaH7Ch2Yq+ylqkXhRmmlwanY07wNa++R5hrkdOJRff/Xz4 qeBebO8IemjP736IBOUQNvOkTlHTeK8RPacCy5E/2ae2g4mWGC9QBZySvAMhYtgJcQ2horpf0YtXU EYWV7nclByFAkHpvJkeOAkhguIF8vBHA3wEgkRw9cN3U2H0JUh/t9i63zt9hfVQ+ptpR+vjE4pNqo 3P4zuWyg==; Received: from 107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net ([107.223.28.39]:54756 helo=samurai.attlocal.net) by premium76.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1k0lOz-004GgK-Bo; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:41:50 -0400 Message-ID: <0069D35C-D0CB-45D0-A847-4B93D8F44C8B@pmjones.io> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B93999B7-B36B-44CA-839B-37870A00A55C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 07:41:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Theodore Brown , Joe Ferguson , PHP Developers Mailing List To: =?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Marcin_Brzuchalski?= References: <79DC1760-6BBC-45E2-A5CC-0E0C076204B7@pmjones.io> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium76.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pmjones.io X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium76.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Authenticated-Sender: premium76.web-hosting.com: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: pmjones@pmjones.io ("Paul M. Jones") --Apple-Mail=_B93999B7-B36B-44CA-839B-37870A00A55C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Michal, > On Jul 29, 2020, at 01:13, Micha=C5=82 Marcin Brzuchalski = wrote: >=20 > Hi Paul, >=20 > wt., 28 lip 2020 o 20:56 Paul M. Jones = napisa=C5=82(a): >=20 >> ... >> Let's count. + is "change away from @@ to anything else", - is "stay = with >> @@", ? is hard-to-tell/weak/uncertain/they-all-suck. >> ... >> Michal Brzuchalski: -? >>=20 >=20 > Wow. Hold on your horses. I was never in favour for @@ but always = against > at least AFAIR. > Where did you get that? >=20 > Anyway it should be ++ here Ah yes, clearly a mistake -- my apologies. > It's hard to rely fully on your statement considering such a mistake. I encourage you (and everyone sle who is interested!) to go back and = check that Twitter thread to see if I have made other errors. In the absence of them, my conclusion still stands: that is, "the = majority of Twitter respondents in that thread appear to be against @@, = and in favor of 'something else'." --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php --Apple-Mail=_B93999B7-B36B-44CA-839B-37870A00A55C--