Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111229 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10350 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2020 20:14:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2020 20:14:25 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765421804E6 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:10:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from premium76-2.web-hosting.com (premium76-2.web-hosting.com [162.213.253.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pmjones.io; s=default; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=V1asMnUCPjlkymtQQds5tiIw7v44NmoiRkFIj5NkcUA=; b=e/btZZJpu1/ne38XI+Kj4+2TMG CESlUcvHLNx1mMvO0KxxTkLUghHj3dc9aAr1Sgf3CfnJccNB8dk7aiG0nJVt4ta/ejGJh0T9UxJbq JR9fQ3tK9EY2uh4Rgjx/skz5bnXqRXkvQiKdjpOZS3yTIWSsR9rDDllaF928/Evite1Y2MqNh4EL+ vxov2FQvGoMlH+nrFprWuS5KvcLkxMPH6+oym8thw2p191ua/2hZR3CIAYniT5y0cMBE4MQdtDp9/ Cawos1vPZMIPd9YYxLbIvFzpCrYFbDgRyfekl+Dtwa4CdIVvHuZjwnugfL/aWQaWe/hs0lxERIkdK 0Bp959iw==; Received: from 107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net ([107.223.28.39]:50748 helo=samurai.attlocal.net) by premium76.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1k0UzU-000Pq6-7l; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:10:24 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_70DB3C2D-285D-4F16-A5D1-77F586EDB5C7" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:10:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Theodore Brown , Joe Ferguson , PHP Developers Mailing List To: Ben Ramsey References: <79DC1760-6BBC-45E2-A5CC-0E0C076204B7@pmjones.io> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium76.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pmjones.io X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium76.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Authenticated-Sender: premium76.web-hosting.com: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change From: pmjones@pmjones.io ("Paul M. Jones") --Apple-Mail=_70DB3C2D-285D-4F16-A5D1-77F586EDB5C7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Jul 28, 2020, at 14:07, Ben Ramsey wrote: >=20 >> On Jul 28, 2020, at 13:55, Paul M. Jones wrote: >>=20 >> Now, it may be that #[] or <<>> or something else actually is = "better" in some sense that cannot be articulated. But if there are no = existing technical hurdles to be overcome with the = already-voted-on-and-accepted solution of @@, what technically = compelling reason can there be to revote? >=20 >=20 > IMO, there is no compelling reason to revote other than the fact that = we have no process for what to do in this situation. What "situation" is this, exactly? AFICT we have a working = implementation using @@, with no technical hurdles to surmount. Or have = I missed something that now prevents @@ from working per its RFC? --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php --Apple-Mail=_70DB3C2D-285D-4F16-A5D1-77F586EDB5C7--