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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:25:34 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change
From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey)

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> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:13, C=C3=B4me Chilliet =
<come.chilliet@fusiondirectory.org> wrote:
>=20
> Le Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:46:38 -0500,
> Joe Ferguson <joe@joeferguson.me> a =C3=A9crit :
>=20
>> Hello Internals,
>>=20
>> I've been working with Derick Rethans and others (thanks all!) on a =
Shorter
>> Attribute Syntax Change RFC which outlines reasons why the "#[]" =
syntax
>> would be preferred over the currently agreed upon "@@" syntax for =
Shorter
>> Attribute Syntax.
>>=20
>> An important part of the research that went into this proposal =
demonstrates
>> how "@@" will make handling attributes more difficult for =
PHP_CodeSniffer
>> (and similar tools) and shows how the alternative "#[]" syntax is =
more
>> friendly for these tools.
>>=20
>> You can find the RFC
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax_change and I'm =
happy to
>> answer any questions as best I can.
>>=20
>=20
> The text uses =C2=AB instead of <<, it=E2=80=99s confusing.
>=20
> It should be made clearer what #[ ] has over << >>, which does not =
cause any BC
> break.
>=20
> C=C3=B4me


I don=E2=80=99t know that it=E2=80=99s valuable to spend time discussing =
advantages
over `<< >>`. Isn=E2=80=99t it clear from the previous RFC[^1] that `@@` =
and
`#[ ]` both won out over `<< >>`?

Cheers,
Ben


[^1]: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax

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