Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111188 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33919 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2020 19:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2020 19:52:16 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27BF1804A7 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:47:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qt1-f175.google.com (mail-qt1-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt1-f175.google.com with SMTP id d27so9370701qtg.4 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:47:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2hEO0YG9H7cJ1B6u1u8AV50KTpSvS+ClYh+LaT5u5TM=; b=PYOyGU5oOlD42pV4W8wqLbiuzBrr7wgjbL9pwOFLIukAaJ7uORsUqB06+oC+/g4BlJ Rue+GlbohIxpYLGc43gueiHftbKXJVGVewIw/poWOw0JADyOr+u9fENsu7JXNJMnO51R gzWJEkhk3k07Qga43aXNvQ2QlIG7DgIRB+TxOHPq5cldhy9g8APy7J7lIreuagfyf1Bn bEyngg59NuaROK3JnBNjhbTVRjNG8hHSQ74IAqq320+FJMNyqoaj831et/u8cJGPK05j L4k/qPV0/iHU5OylNywRMM49IaOSiusNFBKGxevTF3UlGoI3OjiDfxSwCPgQZwbS3kku TbNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2hEO0YG9H7cJ1B6u1u8AV50KTpSvS+ClYh+LaT5u5TM=; b=rIER2BA9H3sjSOdKGYBuZtvYJl08IFyedEO+YaWFUCAkNQ8WRPuZU3Bo2eDhS8VxBp 3q9hnsksFanEoYpq/43jNv208NpQP+DepF1QtcxingvRXQi4h/DfIrQYdAx9NeHhmfI/ Xwmgnn5yyJYmm9RsQMy9Oksypr8GbXH72i4MNNeME+5GqfyGyKjg19u93f+PzeYdsi0D loQ6+0ni7+zb/fgMOZwuUmxnJWpGDritkgqWPmkO9tVD3GU7P/CUnExItLXmoK/9GlNm 2/O0mgcthdhBtjj0jyVTOSJfdVOWgReW95R1SDkPx4IHcbejateqJW5nrY29ANu3+KBn hQZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532EjnP8jH3IZjxHpsT/oUunvfK7ejIOF90WQZYcGMpGJDDlg88I e14EFzqHola8mlAKBKkdSFsyKkoPCCBHPcja+Ta/bUwPCtI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxAJANy9FkGsuYZbluHWfnnTJaRDnIb6R+JBabzYLSlzqvu0EGqnUofels83ikh1yLQV5NLtwlpmIeOPM/4O/U= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:729a:: with SMTP id v26mr15284187qto.362.1595702847480; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:47:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:47:11 -0600 Message-ID: To: Derek Bonner Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: php.ini environment variable fallback value From: cja987@gmail.com (Chuck Adams) On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:30 AM Chuck Adams wrote: > > Not a fan of special syntax for environment variables regardless of > the syntax. I think `$_ENV['foo'] ?? 'bar'` is fine as-is. Not so > much the superglobal, but there's also getenv(). I feel fairly silly, this being for just .ini files. Seems reasonable enough there, though now we're talking about .ini files no longer being static... --c