Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111184 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4954 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2020 16:35:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2020 16:35:52 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B21C1804A7 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f177.google.com (mail-qk1-f177.google.com [209.85.222.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 08:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id b79so11481385qkg.9 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 08:31:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SaBYNYvdGd06Qe4pZlMQ8oEyPzQdhhu9jhlesLqmKOw=; b=JeY8nvYNt9VEgqeyBGn2vso8GQdpadSogQ6oqN/f2qlS5osrY0+ELv6xypm0DwnqZU bZinZtsetLI86eeTR1Ppf+sGaRdVeBUPhAMV4ai8b03XHyBd0XG2h4eeLbj73cHfrfWA gFyVZKXKX835YXJnd5ao+hS8oBdRD6/TRW9eklDuyW8BwOwHkS62H/xCRyLDXKHnCzSV qBN2lXGnjimTtis5f9swsjbwb1HoYrKEouE+SLMV2myQp3RQ5R3NYy00dOJbdvzSMl4I SQEclom7frz8jbHD613ldCmIdNT7NMrXSM95APHV1xEQc+JR539YQrrNgi9T1Wn8VgYJ SyLw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SaBYNYvdGd06Qe4pZlMQ8oEyPzQdhhu9jhlesLqmKOw=; b=FMaL/YZXRFC9PAz7tdV1oCJ5B1Driij32VsaG1smkTDalMVqIo/eEFEyupuz2mLnKC sVIP5zcln4J+nMYKKySrvXa7QAacAZIQMSTaSRTPJjeXMGgyCsLK8O0mXLK0N8UlianP /IgPie/+tWEPPPWCS2DDSQNfJhxUevWQpFnqQDopfS9OoCFcPRI7nKQqYZ0P4yxtyc4i wVj5Qz1PJXJB84nqLVn6QH8VXrodoISkWJRY2zKiY58CUT8grwuNApZCxWBd+Unj1zyK 19y6cG/elRqU8Fpjl3BNXJxfrcr7rlVkVM2c3X9kygh3wg3WMZWMXxbpm0n1PWAz6nvr qe4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5326EDS0PXlFKTY9Aye7DVYxLpikP9bcE9Gfcii4rx5dWyv3PP4G Cn9wUvjj9SgVZgaF8Hf626pIKjTt/biMk4/+xM13qle1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxlp0EEm5fIvAzmon38YthJgCDCNWqawbZ/lfOqMK09IO0+rr7vIJOnIOs0qj9bWjbuGgeZVDukup258+zptDE= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6808:: with SMTP id d8mr386321qkc.15.1595691063614; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 08:31:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 09:30:46 -0600 Message-ID: To: Derek Bonner Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: php.ini environment variable fallback value From: cja987@gmail.com (Chuck Adams) On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:54 PM Derek Bonner wrote: > * memory_limit = ${PHP_MEMORY_LIMIT:-"default value"} > * memory_limit = ${PHP_MEMORY_LIMIT::"default value"} > * memory_limit = ${PHP_MEMORY_LIMIT:="default value"} > * memory_limit = ${PHP_MEMORY_LIMIT=="default value"} Not a fan of special syntax for environment variables regardless of the syntax. I think `$_ENV['foo'] ?? 'bar'` is fine as-is. Not so much the superglobal, but there's also getenv(). --c