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Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:50:06 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Microsoft-Original-Message-ID: <06F95414-9FB4-408D-9528-E408E404C9E0@hotmail.com> X-TMN: [akDSO04yeTLDW/BBgwFuuRwY4qKkpF93Gyd7I+Tl4aoi1we5ES1Vq0pheY0NwIb7] X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-IncomingHeaderCount: 49 X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 65886ac3-59c0-40e5-25a0-08d82fe0db14 X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: VI1EUR04HT021: X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: XSl3kMd1Z2+mKNLENwRJMXMChsvAbnc/sevvp3dDnKtaF+lQuXYfCR8RKNXVNeEUs2P8YRz5zWxkTodfpLwTbi1rwAAvxf45B+E1X50nWYquoeDPez5DKLMYqIjfTo7/k1PEOCfZeHwP2tEKELCyPHv3E1hwGOEXdYEK9tuv7QlAikqNBOehsDXaN4pJ7Y5iidFUpk5vQEY37PRF1NVsp8MMQ0DeCHkuRr6ew2pG0/BPXVG1Q46zqt/FvXpizEMV X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255;CTRY:;LANG:en;SCL:0;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;H:VI1PR02MB4703.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com;PTR:;CAT:NONE;SFTY:;SFS:;DIR:OUT;SFP:1901; X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData: 9PfXPYGeKUqvmJ9LF+ilrKFmBjuB3MWteOj6o82Rkuw7Qw5hk4wpaGdBXT/AMPKK/rECCcarIvuwKiqtWRVlX8UoUezBaS1E2cDttqXmWs2dbOCNElESW/2Yl4veM0MmCLafCXv07U4wAEv/2ySRFVebgeWorsOqU2cKuPXuzlEMQHV7M3ftPOF9dqYAbupeDMiWm68sU0u/5Pa0Cy8D9A== X-OriginatorOrg: hotmail.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 65886ac3-59c0-40e5-25a0-08d82fe0db14 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2020 14:50:07.3651 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: VI1EUR04FT046.eop-eur04.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1EUR04HT021 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Proposal] Renamed parameters From: bobwei9@hotmail.com (Bob Weinand) > Am 24.07.2020 um 16:11 schrieb Benjamin Eberlei : >=20 > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:00 PM Chris Riley wrote: >=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> Following up from this I've created a draft RFC: >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/renamed_parameters will move to in discussion >> once >> I've ensured everything important has been captured. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Chris >>=20 >=20 > You added PHP 8.0 as a propsoed version, but that will not be possible > anymore 2 weeks of discussion + 2 weeks of voting are not possible to fit > in before the feature freeze, which is in 11 days. Hey Benjamin, While you are technically correct, the primary point of a feature freeze is= not allowing in completely new features. It will always happen that there are changes and extensions to RFCs introdu= ced for the next version which may need to be addressed first, because ther= e is massive benefit to the new feature in that case. (from a backwards/for= wards compatibility standpoint for example) I do not necessarily agree with the RFC (not given it much thought yet), bu= t I think such RFCs shall still be able to be introduced later on (well, no= t in RC phase, but a bit after the feature freeze cutoff), if there is actu= al benefit from them not being deferred to the next version. Ultimately, th= e RM has to make the call (also to avoid indefinite delays or filibustering= or such). Bob=