Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111168 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11299 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2020 14:20:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2020 14:20:36 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FDA1804C8 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pj1-f51.google.com (mail-pj1-f51.google.com [209.85.216.51]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-f51.google.com with SMTP id a9so5189186pjd.3 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:15:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rkvzdPhywRNu9Plt9EFlj8wo+zNhsLgtBZTYbOl2AKs=; b=NKUqLx0B/gyfeb9C5p56kaexAiLcLK3UPJ8KLz7zMxKoq255rtVTO/C9oOVIgk+76a 5Ea5Xvaw08FzY4ui8b4jcNcvXHtVdYwcSS3aqzLdCy/cH6OD9i0EYb5gqElFmtu8APVG uajb+GoXSwcsrlEDFoYA6At+T8Mk8uDVI6/nceSQjhfMFxSFg12RCVsnLvAQibdWyhG+ H483GsU7KdNUmVFzkACTk6QIb3bStTZGNT6uizRC0P+lYR8pCjCvk0Gj3R48nFGsphct BWXuno73yhVY3+NFaO0wDfo+VtyLqlU8l6qRbrr6yt1YajT8yTKSZPGM/UyaVzuMp/tz /x/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rkvzdPhywRNu9Plt9EFlj8wo+zNhsLgtBZTYbOl2AKs=; b=DqU3S8+vz1Oyzu4NJWdCDFpGk0gbDg+iFQa0YFudhx/Ug/wlonbnxFTKXmyY/BRSB1 qDCjUf2ja5rgx+nAlcXHv4GN+7lxs9LtCqZ37teNnzETG2WLGAmX1Je58kxy3pUPYXAJ DffBQ5FV/MtcJguleOOJxUBHGdTMf9cZHD55CZUXUpkjhREqWyhM0YEGaBkKXUzL4ULb 9jJCehQWzitGkdWj2qpnt+UGec/AQN+3J/hL/gGpSCUoRWeMy8Kstsj7zJ0iD1rn/HzQ 63BwXLnNmeF9Od3w0V/CZeQ8jlISj8gtcTTiR5pNCqWg2cEthQCrUF90gZqNPb1svxHs g2jw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ZlmAnCL5KIdK+CSjQkxn0FGISCptTCyxsG+FjaXAIo8ANJAE7 ZBTuHWYvcGcIMkSRZzeKgyKuHuWMJzuuftbVCpjXg8A5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzDmOB5GwJZ29dR8u5ZqV/HqOZ1GjCxW3zsanoCKuAc4puH4gsnuGziu0TZDPSeOFrJgUGHGoARZodRaXf52xQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8d8b:: with SMTP id v11mr7857050plo.316.1595596528092; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:15:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:15:17 +0100 Message-ID: To: Benjamin Eberlei Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004309c705ab2fc4f9" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Proposal] Renamed parameters From: t.carnage@gmail.com (Chris Riley) --0000000000004309c705ab2fc4f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 14:01, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:13 PM Chris Riley wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The named parameters RFC has been accepted, despite significant objections >> from maintainers of larger OSS projects due to the overhead it adds to >> maintaining backwards compatibility as it has now made method/function >> parameter names part of the API; a change to them would cause a BC break >> for any library users who decide to use the new feature. >> > > Hi Chris, > > I had something similar in mind, but using an attribute. Here is a patch > that already allows this: > > > https://github.com/beberlei/php-src/commit/4b0a02f9c6ba579f93ec57c754fa3794a96c696b > > Idea: Have a @@NameAlias attribute, where you can provide a second name > for the attribute. This would allow to refactor parameter names by adding > the attribute with the old name as an alias. > > >> >> It is likely that the way this will shake out is that some maintainers >> will >> accept the additional overhead of including parameter names in their BC >> guidelines and others will not, this leaves users unsure if they can use >> the new feature without storing up issues in potentially minor/security >> releases of the libraries they use. This is not really an ideal situation. >> >> More pressing a point is that the current implementation breaks object >> polymorphism. Consider this example (simplified from one of my codebases) >> >> interface Handler { >> public function handle($message); >> } >> >> class RegistrationHandler implements Handler { >> public function handle($registraionCommand); >> } >> >> class ForgottenPasswordHandler implements Handler { >> public function handle($forgottenPasswordCommand); >> } >> >> class MessageBus { >> //... >> public function addHandler(string $message, Handler $handler) { //... >> } >> public function getHandler(string $messageType): Handler { //... } >> public function dispatch($message) >> { >> $this->getHandler(get_class($message))->handle(message: $message); >> } >> } >> >> This code breaks at run time. >> >> Proposals were made for resolutions to this issue however all of them >> require trade offs and could potentially break existing code. >> >> My proposal to resolve these two issues is to add the ability to rename >> parameters with a new syntax as follows. >> >> function callBar(Foo $internalName:externalName) { >> $internalName->bar(); >> } >> >> $x = new Foo(); >> callBar(externalName: $x); >> >> This allows both the above problems to be resolved, by renaming the >> internal parameter and keeping the external signature the same. >> >> I propose that the RFC would have two voting options. >> >> The first would be to implement it as proposed above, this would allow any >> parameter to be called by name regardless of the intentions of the author >> of the method/function and is closest to the current behaviour. >> >> The second option would be to use this syntax to make named parameters in >> userland code explicitly opt in. As such an additional shortcut syntax >> would be implemented: $: to designate a named parameter. eg >> >> function callBar($:externalName) { >> $externalName->bar(); >> } >> >> $x = new Foo(); >> callBar(externalName: $x); >> >> If a parameter is not opted in, a compile time error is raised: >> >> function callBar($externalName) { >> $externalName->bar(); >> } >> >> $x = new Foo(); >> callBar(externalName: $x); // Error: cannot call parameter $externalName >> by >> name. >> >> There are pros and cons to this second approach, on the one hand it >> reduces >> the usefulness of the named parameter syntax by requiring changes to old >> code to enable it (although this could probably be automated fairly >> easily) >> however it does provide a neater solution to the second problem in that, >> to >> prevent the runtime errors in the second issue example, every child class >> would need to use the rename syntax on it's parameter to prevent errors, >> whereas if we went down this route, the parent class could just not opt >> into the named parameter syntax and the code would function as expected. >> >> Another advantage is that with the ability to rename parameters using the >> opt in, we gain some flexibility to tighten up the LSP rules relating to >> named parameter inheritance. >> >> class Foo { >> public function bar($:param) { //... } >> public function baz($internal:external) { //... } >> } >> >> // OK >> class Bar { >> public function bar($renamed:param) { //... } >> public function baz($renamed:external) { //... } >> } >> >> // Compile time error cannot rename named parameter $:param (renamed to >> $:renamedParam) >> class Baz { >> public function bar($:renamedParam) { //... } >> } >> >> // Compile time error cannot rename named parameter $:external (renamed to >> $:renamed) >> class Baz { >> public function baz($internal:renamed) { //... } >> } >> >> While this would be technically possible with the first option (no opt in) >> it would break any existing code which renames a parameter as every >> parameter would be subject to these rules. >> >> I don't have Wiki karma so can't post this yet; but I want to get the ball >> rolling on discussion as feature freeze is coming up fast and if we want >> to >> go for the second option, that must hit before the named parameter syntax >> is in a tagged version of PHP. >> >> Regards, >> Chris >> > Hi, While the attribute idea does solve the BC problems, I'm not seeing how it really solves the polymorphism issue - could you provide an example of how this would work? In either case; as a personal preference I'd rather stick to syntax that affects the parameter as part of it's definition instead of tweaking it's behaviour with an attribute. It just feels easier to grasp what is going on. Regards, Chris --0000000000004309c705ab2fc4f9--